T2 IRC Log: 2008-04-22

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--- Log opened Tue Apr 22 00:00:58 2008
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07:15 < magas> rxr: same error with default tlx target
07:15 < magas> http://pastebin.com/m6a2e6cfb
07:28 < magas> i will try build tlx with 7.0
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09:06 < rxr> re
09:06 < rxr> magas: strange I do not get that error
09:06 < rxr> btw. tlx is not ready
09:06 < rxr> e.g. bash will fail right now
09:06 < rxr> (on my side)
09:22 < magas> on 7.0 i compiled kernel without error
09:22 < magas> later i will downgrade kernel to 2.6.24.5
09:29 < magas> i tlx busybox conflict with binutils
09:32 < magas> !> Making post-install adaptions.
09:32 < magas> !> Found shared files with other packages:
09:32 < magas> !> usr/bin/ar: binutils busybox
09:32 < magas> !> usr/bin/strings: binutils busybox
09:49 < rxr> tlx does not install binutils intothe target
09:49 < rxr> does it ?
09:50 < magas> o builded with default target/tlx/pkgsel
10:59 < magas> 40M build/tlx-7.0-rc2-tlx-x86-i386-cross/TOOLCHAIN
10:59 < magas> 138M build/tlx-7.0-rc2-tlx-x86-i386-cross/
10:59 < magas> too big
11:05 < magas> 48M build/tlx-7.0-rc2-tlx-x86-i386-cross/usr
11:05 < magas> and
11:06 < magas> 39M build/tlx-7.0-rc2-tlx-x86-i386-cross/lib
11:07 < magas> where i'm wrong ?
11:08 < magas> i have libtool, autoconf, automake in my image
11:08 < rxr> yeah - the pkgsel.sed is probably not honored in 7.0
11:08 < rxr> you probably even have binutils and gcc in the target ...
11:08 < magas> yes
11:09 < rxr> I can merge the single revision which enables multiple pkgse.* files inside a single target into 7.0, liekwsie
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11:27 < Baldzius> moin
11:35 < bfg> hi
11:36 < bfg> is there a possibility to update the location entry on the t2-startpage?
11:41 < rxr> bfg: not yet via an web interface
11:41 < rxr> but I can insert it into the DB when you let us know about the changes here
11:43 < bfg> ok... there are a couple of changes... I tried to overwrite my old entry and added accidentially a new user id gwes .... this should be removed I guess....
11:43 < bfg> the new location is under this new user-id .... (old user id is gweis)
11:43 < bfg> i can post it here once more if it makes it easier for you
11:45 < magas> !> Automatically creating default configuration ....
11:45 < magas> !> using: architecture/x86/kernel.conf.sh
11:45 < magas> !> Enabling all modules ...
11:45 < magas> !> You should not call uname during the build!
11:46 < rxr> bfg: that'S fine I'll change that in soe secs
11:46 < bfg> thanks
11:46 < bfg> it's not necessary to hurry....
11:50 < CIA-4> rene * r28810 /trunk/package/python/python-lxml/ (. python-lxml.cache python-lxml.desc): * added python-lxml (2.0.4) - A Python binding for the libxml2 and libxslt libraries
11:56 < bfg> btw. I'am wondering about the whole build and package management process in T2.. currently it seems, that the normal way is to build it completely - install it - and updates or further installs are done with Emerge-Pkg....(is this roughly correct?)
11:56 < bfg> sure for embedded systems this will be a bit different, :)
11:58 < rxr> yes, that is roughly correct
11:58 < rxr> though of couse one can download prebuilt minimals and Emerge the reminder from there
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12:04 < rxr> bfg: lpotter is near you ?
12:04 < rxr> or was that a test creation from you ?
12:05 < bfg> yes thats right... lpotter is near me...
12:05 < bfg> gwes (not missing 'i' ..) was my test creation
12:05 < bfg> the entries gweis and gwes are pretty identical....
12:05 < bfg> so just rename gwes to gweis or transfer location from gwes to gweis....
12:06 < rxr> yep - just did
12:06 < bfg> you can delete the other one
12:06 < bfg> yes I am thinking about catching up with lpotter.... we will see
12:09 < CIA-4> rene * r28811 /trunk/package/develop/libtasn1/libtasn1.desc: * updated libtasn1 (1.3 -> 1.4)
12:10 < CIA-4> rene * r28812 /trunk/package/gnome2/quick-lounge-applet/quick-lounge-applet.desc: * updated quick-lounge-applet (2.12.4 -> 2.12.5)
12:10 < CIA-4> rene * r28813 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-panel/gnome-panel.desc: * updated gnome-panel (2.22.1 -> 2.22.1.3)
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12:26 [Users #t2]
12:26 [@ChanServ] [ bfg ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ |beowulf|]
12:26 [ __init__] [ CIA-4 ] [ elias` ] [ magas ] [ steve_a ]
12:26 [ axionix ] [ Dallur ] [ Enqlave] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ]
12:26 [ Baldzius] [ dogmeat] [ hwinkel] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin]
12:26 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
12:39 < CIA-4> aldas * r28814 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-settings-daemon/ (gnome-settings-daemon.cache gnome-settings-daemon.desc): * changed gnome-settings-daemon build priority (186.200 -> 185.400)
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16:35 [Users #t2]
16:35 [@ChanServ] [ bfg ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ |beowulf|]
16:35 [ __init__] [ CIA-4 ] [ elias` ] [ magas ] [ tfl0pz ]
16:35 [ axionix ] [ Dallur ] [ Enqlave] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ]
16:35 [ Baldzius] [ dogmeat] [ hwinkel] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin]
16:35 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
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16:55 < magas> how i can remove unneeded locales from build ?
16:56 < magas> i need only en_EN.UTF-8
17:07 < rxr> easiest, for newcomers, is to remove them during the final image compression
17:07 < rxr> just exclude by wildcard ...
17:11 < CIA-4> rene * r28815 /branches/7.0/scripts/config.in:
17:11 < CIA-4> * merged r25796 from trunk: improved scripts/config.in to allow all
17:11 < CIA-4> package selection "techniques" at-a-time
17:14 < magas> Firefox can't find the server at osiris.tfh-berlin.de
17:15 < magas> where i can find t2 binary package ?
17:15 < magas> my ubuntu 6.04 too old, and 8.04 too new :)
17:17 < rxr> well - lalala
17:17 < rxr> this university server had to be removed some days ago
17:18 < magas> ok, i found
17:18 < rxr> we are working on getting t2 on the other prominent open source mirror sites
17:18 < rxr> http://dl.exactcode.de/t2/binary/isos/
17:18 < magas> can i mount ISO and use it as development enviroment ?
17:18 < rxr> there are temp. 7.0 ones
17:19 < rxr> those 7.0 ones are install images - so you could unpack the tar.bz2 packages and chroot into it to use it
17:23 < Baldzius> rxr: what's happening with VM lately, seems like connection is very slow
17:25 < rxr> yeah - I feel it locally, too
17:25 < rxr> cooperate office
17:25 < rxr> in some days we'll move to our new, own, independant one - internet should be better there ...
17:25 < Baldzius> all day long
17:25 < rxr> yeah - I know
17:25 < rxr> I feel it while looking stuff up on the web myself
17:26 < Baldzius> ok just to know
17:26 < rxr> maybe someone ie leaching whatever, or watching internet tv, I have no idea ...
17:26 < rxr> or the ISP has a bad day ...
17:26 < Baldzius> could be ISP related
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17:38 < CIA-4> aldas * r28816 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem-pl-parser/ (. totem-pl-parser.cache totem-pl-parser.desc): * added totem-pl-parser (2.22.2) - simple GObject-based library to parse a host of playlist formats, as well as save those
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17:39 [Users #t2]
17:39 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-4 ] [ elias` ] [ magas ] [ snakeroot] [ youshe ]
17:39 [ __init__] [ Dallur ] [ Enqlave] [ mtr ] [ tfl0pz ] [ |beowulf|]
17:39 [ axionix ] [ dogmeat] [ hwinkel] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ]
17:39 [ Baldzius] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
17:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal]
17:59 < CIA-4> rene * r28817 /branches/7.0/scripts/Download:
17:59 < CIA-4> * merged r28778 from trunk: guared scripts/Download's new package
17:59 < CIA-4> inheritance code for non-existing package specifications
18:32 < magas> SSL negotiation failed: SSL disabled due to lack of entropy (https://svn.exactcode.de)
18:35 < magas> ok, i need /dev/random
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19:51 < magas> nice, with t2 i builded image without problem
19:54 < rxr> :-) nice to see it works like you want, now :-)
19:55 < magas> size is 80 mb
19:57 < rxr> probably still containing all kind of stuff you could strip away, right ?
19:58 < magas> lib is 48 Mb
19:58 < magas> now i need custom kernel, with DVb stuff enables
19:58 < magas> and another stuff removed :)
19:58 < rxr> l target/desktop/kernel.conf
19:59 < magas> yes, i already have custom kernel.conf
19:59 < magas> now i need to remove kernel26 and compile it again ?
20:00 < magas> ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg $config -job 5-$pkgname
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20:03 < rxr> ack
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20:50 < rxr> hey d-marc
20:50 [Users #t2]
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20:50 [ __init__] [ d-marc ] [ Enqlave] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ]
20:50 [ axionix ] [ Dallur ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
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20:50 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
21:06 < d-marc> hey!!!!
21:06 < d-marc> how are you
21:06 < d-marc> rxr: I'll be at LT in berlin next month. you too?
21:14 < rxr> yes, we likewise
21:14 < rxr> I saw some other night ping from you - but I was not around at that night ...
21:14 < rxr> how're you ?
21:16 < d-marc> not bad
21:16 < d-marc> still at deutsche boerse in ffm
21:17 < d-marc> but my girlfreind lives in karlsruhe now, so I spend most of my weekends there
21:17 < d-marc> I saw there is a pretty recent version of IceWM in T2
21:18 < d-marc> Seems I have to give T2 another try ;-)
21:18 < rxr> just because of icewm ?
21:18 [Users #t2]
21:18 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-4 ] [ dsoul ] [ mtr ] [ tfl0pz ] [ |beowulf|]
21:18 [ __init__] [ d-marc ] [ Enqlave] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ]
21:18 [ axionix ] [ Dallur ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
21:18 [ Baldzius] [ dogmeat] [ magas ] [ snakeroot ] [ youshe ]
21:18 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
21:18 < d-marc> why not
21:19 < d-marc> under debian it looks very ugly
21:19 < rxr> yeah - sure ...
21:19 < d-marc> compared to the screenshots I found on freshmeat and such
21:19 < rxr> only that we had to recollect the master ISO server from the TFH in Berlin, the ISOs will be back online just in some days :-(((
21:20 < d-marc> even though it looks ugly and badly configured on debian I liked the window handling, the lightness and the themes
21:20 < d-marc> no problem
21:20 < d-marc> I want to try it on a vmware image first so I can use it at work too
21:21 < rxr> I'll leave the office in some minutes
21:21 < d-marc> alright
21:21 < rxr> if we do not meet in IRC soon we'll at least meet at the LinuxTag I hope :-)
21:21 < d-marc> We'll catch up at LT :-)
21:22 < d-marc> looking forward to it
21:22 < d-marc> cu
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21:26 < CIA-4> aldas * r28818 /trunk/package/base/util-linux/util-linux.desc: * updated util-linux (2.13.1 -> 2.13.1.1)
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21:54 < CIA-4> aldas * r28819 /branches/7.0/package/mail/mailman/mailman.desc:
21:54 < CIA-4> * merged r28809 from trunk to branches/7.0:
21:54 < CIA-4> updated mailman (2.1.10b3 -> 2.1.10)
21:54 < CIA-4> security update
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