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01:58 < CIA-5> ragnar * r30175 /trunk/package/base/mdadm/mdadm.desc: * mdadm: mark as compatible with dietlibc
02:05 < CIA-5> ragnar * r30176 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/ (initrdinit.sh mkinitrd.sh): * mkinitrd: make initrd aware of md devices (only raid1 atm)
02:10 < CIA-5> ragnar * r30177 /trunk/package/base/mdadm/preconfig.in: * mdadm: have it build with dietlibc by default
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09:02 < rxr> moin
09:02 < rxr> Ragnar|away: neat
09:04 < CIA-5> rene * r30178 /branches/7.0/package/ruby/ruby/ruby.conf: 
09:04 < CIA-5> * added sparc* to the architectures where ruby segfaults if
09:04 < CIA-5>  pthread support is enabled
09:06 < CIA-5> rene * r30179 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby/ruby.conf: 
09:06 < CIA-5> * merged r30178 from branches/7.0: added sparc* to the architectures
09:06 < CIA-5>  where ruby segfaults if pthread support is enabled
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09:33 < CIA-5> rene * r30180 /trunk/package/editors/ed/ed.desc: * updated ed (0.9 -> 1.0)
09:33 < CIA-5> rene * r30181 /trunk/package/network/neon/neon.desc: * updated neon (0.28.2 -> 0.28.3)
09:36 < CIA-5> rene * r30182 /trunk/package/network/ntp/ntp.desc: * updated ntp (4.2.4p4 -> 4.2.4p5)
09:39 < CIA-5> rene * r30183 /trunk/package/editors/moe/ (. moe.cache moe.desc): * added moe (1.0) - A powerful and user-friendly console text editor
09:39 < CIA-5> rene * r30184 /trunk/package/textproc/libmrss/libmrss.desc: * updated libmrss (0.19.1 -> 0.19.2)
09:39 < CIA-5> rene * r30185 /trunk/package/textproc/libnxml/libnxml.desc: * updated libnxml (0.18.2 -> 0.18.3)
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09:40 < Baldzius> moin
09:40 < rxr> hi Baldzius 
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09:40 < Baldzius> hey rxr
09:40 < rxr> how do you do ?
09:40 < CIA-5> rene * r30186 /trunk/package/network/nss_ldap/nss_ldap.desc: * updated nss_ldap (261 -> 262)
09:41 < Baldzius> thanks, not bad, trying to rest after the night shift of whole week
09:41 < Baldzius> yourself?
09:45 < rxr> oh, night shift - does not sound fun
09:46 < rxr> I'm fine, too :-)
09:46 < rxr> thanks
09:48 < Baldzius> it's not so bad as it sounds but the worst thing is to go back to the normal routine
09:48 < Baldzius> cause now i got used to sleep on days rather nights :)
09:48 < Baldzius> need to switch back so it takes couple of days
09:49 < CIA-5> rene * r30187 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/kernel-change.patch: * svn rm madwifi/kernel-change.patch missed from ML patch in r30165
09:50 < rxr> Baldzius: noticed, we got new, pretty IRC logs: http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/
09:50 < Baldzius> *click*
09:51 < rxr> and now 127 motivated enough to add themselv to the startpage: http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
09:52 < Baldzius> nice
09:52 < rxr> and increased ML messaging :-)
09:53 < Baldzius> yeah, noticed that too
09:58 < CIA-5> rene * r30188 /trunk/package/editors/moe/moe.desc: * marked the "new" moe editor to cross build
09:58 < rxr> do you know something serious in the 7.0 branch? or can we go gold hopefully soonish ?
09:59 < Baldzius> no, haven't used 7.0 for a long time now
09:59 < Baldzius> sitting exclusively on trunk
10:00 < rxr> ah - ok as well
10:00 < rxr> despite sparc64 on the 360MHz box the x86, x86-64, ppc, ppc64 builds are sort of ready
10:01 < rxr> (mostly require a final test install ...)
10:01 < Baldzius> oh maybe one thing, try to install to is using ext3 as root
10:01 < Baldzius> the last time it didn;t work for me somehow
10:02 < Baldzius> so i had to stick with reiserfs
10:03 < CIA-5> rene * r30189 /branches/7.0/package/xorg/xorg-server/parse-config: * merged r30174 from trunk: silenced r30153 pkgprefix warning if libx11 was not yet build
10:15 < CIA-5> rene * r30190 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed "Exact" branding from desktop config entry
10:21 < CIA-5> rene * r30191 /branches/7.0/target/ (desktop/pkgsel generic/pkgsel/10-minimal-xorg.in): 
10:21 < CIA-5> * removed freetype1 from generic minimal-xorg package selection
10:21 < CIA-5>  template, removed duplicate selection from desktop package
10:21 < CIA-5>  selection
10:22 < CIA-5> rene * r30192 /trunk/target/ (desktop/pkgsel generic/pkgsel/10-minimal-xorg.in): 
10:22 < CIA-5> * merged r30191 from branches/7.0: removed freetype1 from generic
10:22 < CIA-5>  minimal-xorg package selection template, removed duplicate selection
10:22 < CIA-5>  from desktop package selection
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10:55 < CIA-5> rene * r30193 /branches/7.0/package/security/gnupg2/gnupg2.conf: * work arounded inf. looping gnupg2 tests on powerpc64: skip them for now
10:56 < CIA-5> rene * r30194 /trunk/package/security/gnupg2/gnupg2.conf: 
10:56 < CIA-5> * merged r30193 from branches/7.0: work arounded inf. looping gnupg2
10:56 < CIA-5>  tests on powerpc64: skip them for now
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10:59 < mpp> guten tag allerseits
10:59 < rxr> moin moin mpp 
11:00 < mpp> i built successfully the modified rescue target for pxe
11:00 < mpp> it works fine !
11:00 < mpp> no i am  adding some network tools 
11:00 < mpp> does anyone know where the ping resides in ?
11:00 < rxr> you tested network booting already ?
11:01 < mpp> i mean which packege
11:01 < mpp> yep 
11:01 < mpp> works like a charm
11:01 < rxr> great
11:01 < mpp> i removed the x stuff from the target 
11:01 < mpp> thanx to you
11:01 < mpp> !
11:01 < rxr> in t2 var/adm/* hols the installed package stuff in plain/text ASCII files, so you can find ping like this:
11:01 < rxr> # grep bin/ping /var/adm/flists/*
11:01 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/netkit-base:netkit-base: bin/ping
11:01 < mpp> cool
11:02 < rxr> to find ping related stuff as good as the maintainers filled the T2 .desc files in your t2 tree:
11:02 < mpp> these irc-logs are pretty precious
11:02 < rxr> # ./scripts/Find-Pkg ping
11:02 < Ragnar|away> that usually just gives me a 'line too long' error ;P
11:02 < mpp> nice 
11:02 < mpp> i'll give it a shot right now
11:02 < rxr> Ragnar|away: only if you grep in /home/ragnar/src/t2-trunk-foo-bar/build/my-super-target-8.0-x86-64-core2-cross/var/adm/flists/* :-)
11:03 < rxr> Ragnar|away: recent kernels (after 2.6.23 or so) have dynamic command line allocation, now, FINALLY
11:03 < Ragnar|away> oh kewl :)
11:03 < rxr> so you should see this less often even in the above case
11:03 < rxr> though you can limit it with ulimits
11:03 < rxr> IIRC it defaults to 1/4 or so of the stack limit
11:04 < rxr> someone from google jumped over the quick brown fox and implemented this because it annoyed him too much :-)
11:04 < rxr> he came from plan9 ...
11:05 < Ragnar|away> you're right, it works now :) sweeeety
11:05 < mpp> by the way 
11:05  * Ragnar|away dances
11:05 < mpp> the madwifi package has almost all the time trouble getting downloaded
11:05  * rxr wants to see a youtube video of that :-)
11:05 < mpp> so i had to exclude this
11:05 < Ragnar|away> LOL
11:05 < rxr> mpp: I guess that's the SSL cert of the server
11:06 < rxr> mpp: I hope the madwifi checkout is on the t2 mirrors by now so you should be able to crab it from somewhere
11:06 < rxr> maybe svn has some "--eat-the-cert" option to avoid this?
11:07 < Ragnar|away> madwifi-r3375.tar.bz2 ?
11:07 < rxr> the new one from yesterday, whatever the -r was .-)
11:08 < Ragnar|away> ooh ok
11:11 < Ragnar|away> I see what you mean
11:14 < rxr> mpp: btw. this flist program and other files search is on my TODO to integrate into the homepage package matrix
11:14 < Ragnar|away> hmm can we code the answer to the 'accept cert' into the Download ?
11:15 < rxr> so one can consult that to find where some obscure binary or header is located in
11:15 < Ragnar|away> oh btw when do you usually update the .cache files?
11:16 < rxr> Ragnar|away: no idea yet, mache echo -e "y\n" | would work - maybe not, svn has some --non-interactive switch, I just tried, it does not accept the cert then - maybe it has an hidden switch for that
11:16 < rxr> Ragnar|away: we should automate the .cache update more, indeed
11:16 < Ragnar|away> mpp: you can do the checkout once by hand, accept the cert permanently, then run the Download
11:16 < rxr> Ragnar|away: right now I update them when something majorly changes
11:16 < rxr> yes, I thought I had done so on the master server after I noticed this on my regression tester
11:19 < CIA-5> rene * r30195 /trunk/package/lua/luaffi/ (. lua-lib.patch luaffi.cache luaffi.conf luaffi.desc): * added luaffi (0.9.0) - FFI bindings to Lua
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11:25 < mpp> hey rxr
11:25 < mpp> the udhcpc should work in the rescue image  ß
11:25 < mpp> ß
11:25 < mpp> ß
11:25 < mpp> damnit
11:25 < rxr> yeah the client scripts ?
11:25 < mpp> right
11:25 < rxr> it already on my todo ... :-(((
11:25 < rxr> patch welcome
11:25 < mpp> they give an error when booted 
11:26 < mpp> a cool
11:26 < mpp> so ill dig into it
11:26 < rxr> yeah - not so cool that it does not yet just work ...
11:26 < rxr> yeah - patch most welcome
11:26 < rxr> maybe in conjunction with the queued bind one :-)
11:26 < mpp> im on it
11:26 < mpp> i have that already filed
11:26 < mpp> ill submit 
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11:35 < mpp> ?
11:35 < mpp> ah
11:35 < mpp> keyboard working again
11:35 < mpp> nice :-)
11:37 < mpp> allright i user dhcpcd
11:37 < mpp> it works
11:37 < mpp> only thing is 
11:38 < mpp> the directory /var/lib and /var/lib/dhcpcd were missing in the initramfs
11:38 < mpp> how to i patch the dhcpcd to include these directories ?
11:38 < rxr> are they empty or contain files ?
11:38 < mpp> they don't exist on the booted image
11:38 < mpp> so i created them manually
11:38 < rxr> and in the raw build ?
11:38 < mpp> and it worked
11:38 < rxr> build/...
11:38 < mpp> raw build ?
11:39 < mpp> you mean in the build/TOOLCHAIN ?
11:39 < rxr> the build before filtering and image compression
11:39 < rxr> I mean build/$configid-$uuid/
11:39 < mpp> ill check
11:39 < rxr> ok - my rescue build looks like it does not exist
11:39 < mpp> missing there
11:40 < rxr> if that's the case for you a hook_add postmake 5 "mkdir -p $root/var/lib/dhcpcd" should do
11:40 < rxr> --typos, etc.
11:40 < rxr> rebuild the package and rebuild the image
11:41 < mpp> where do i do this modification ?
11:41 < mpp> hook_add ?
11:42 < rxr> sorry in the .conf file
11:42 < mpp> i'll think ill read the dev docu first to catch up with this
11:42 < mpp> okay
11:42 < rxr> it's a t2 function to add code to some hook
11:42 < rxr> each package con influence it's build with conde in package/*/$pkg/$pkg.conf
11:42 < mpp> right
11:43 < mpp> but in this case we could also create them in the rootfs of the target definition
11:43 < mpp> which is bad as i see
11:43 < rxr> but then all the other targets would not be fixed
11:43 < mpp> vor the package is beter
11:43 < mpp> yep got it
11:43 < mpp> t2 rocks ;-)
11:43 < rxr> if the package needs some directory to work it should be in the package, not just a single target
11:43 < mpp> right
11:44 < mpp> looks like /var/lib is missing in this target in general
11:44 < mpp> which is not a good idea
11:45 < rxr> it probably just that no package is in the selection that created it
11:45 < mpp> ah i see
11:46 < mpp> so were do we patch for this
11:46 < rxr> with the hook above :-)
11:46 < mpp> i mean dhcpcd is very cool and udhcp gave lots of erros of diverse files and paths
11:46 < mpp> allright
11:46 < rxr> ah - you exchanged udhcpd with dhcp in your target ?
11:47 < mpp> no i kicked them both and used dhcpcd only
11:47 < mpp> works like a charm 
11:47 < mpp> im rebuilding the target with the paths added
11:48 < mpp> wouldn it make sence to have a file hierarchy template used 
11:48 < mpp> even if some paths were empty for certain targets
11:48 < rxr> not really
11:48 < mpp> okay - explain please
11:48 < rxr> t2 is about cleanlyness and sorted stuff
11:49 < mpp> capiche !
11:49 < mpp> accepted 
11:49 < rxr> if you have 100 extra dirs, empty then they are not only confusing and a mess, but also waste space on very minimal things
11:49 < rxr> for example we build < 2MB systems etc. ...
11:49 < rxr> you do not want to have 100 directories in them just in case ...
11:50 < rxr> if some package does rely on a not yet existing directory, then this single package needs to be fixed
11:50 < rxr> in this case it looks like a) this dhcpcd needs to be fixed to create this var/lib/dhcpd directory and the udhcpd needs to be fixed to find it's freaking config scripts
11:51 < rxr> the nearly only other thing would coudl do additionaly is to add /var/lib to the generic "FHS" 00-dirtree layout, but not sub-folders within it
11:52 < mpp> submited the patch via mail
11:52 < mpp> and other to follow for sure
11:52 < mpp> now that i know how and what to do
11:52 < mpp> so ill be tuning the pxe-rescue target since i need it professionally 
11:53 < mpp> i called it pxe-rescue
11:53 < mpp> if its okay whith you 
11:53 < rxr> sounds good, without the tinyX stuff it will probably be way smaller
11:53 < mpp> i kicked that out already
11:53 < mpp> was easy in the target definition
11:54 < mpp> even for a noob like me
11:58 < mpp> initrd is about 63mb for now
11:58 < mpp> i need ruby in the rescue image so ill add that to the target
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12:19 < CIA-5> rene * r30196 /branches/7.0/package/shells/mc-mp/umode_t.patch: * fixed mc-mp to build on powerpc64
12:22 < mpp> @rxr i did create a dhcpcd.conf inside the package/network/dhcpcd dir and added two lines for /var/lib and /var/lib/dhcpcd
12:22 < mpp> i rebuilt but the dirs did not get added to the initrd.img
12:22 < rxr> just a single mkdir -p ... inside the hook_add is enough
12:22 < rxr> what did you put into the dhcpd.conf ?
12:23 < CIA-5> rene * r30197 /trunk/package/shells/mc-mp/umode_t.patch: * merged r30196 from branches/7.0: fixed mc-mp to build on powerpc64
12:24 < mpp> these hook_add postmake 5 'mkdir -p $root/var/lib'
12:24 < mpp> hook_add postmake 5 'mkdir -p $root/var/lib/dhcpcd'
12:25 < rxr> you did rebuild the package ?
12:25 < mpp> yes
12:25 < mpp> and there should be a var/lib inside the build/...
12:25 < mpp> right ?
12:25 < rxr> yes, is there ?
12:26 < mpp> no it's not
12:26 < mpp> do i have to make a cleanup 
12:28 < rxr> not really
12:28 < rxr> how did you rebuild the package ?
12:28 < mpp> scripts/Config -cfg pxe-rescue
12:28 < mpp> scripts/Download -cfg pxe-rescue -required
12:28 < mpp> scripts/Build-Target -cfg pxe-rescue
12:29 < rxr> ok - that did not rebuild the package
12:29 < rxr> you neither had to run Config nor Download
12:29 < mpp> okay..
12:29 < rxr> (btw. Download is optional today in any case, anyway - T2 auto-downloads when missing ... )
12:29 < rxr> for a package rebuild you can use two main ways (beside other manual hackery)
12:29 < mpp> with the scripts/Build-Target -job 5-dhcpcd then ?
12:29 < rxr> the first, explicitly one package:
12:29 < rxr> yes, like you said:
12:30 < rxr>  scripts/Build-Target -job 5-$pkg
12:30 < rxr> or, to rebuild what changed:
12:30 < rxr> scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg rescue -newremove
12:30 < rxr> removed logfiles of package where anything changed
12:30 < rxr> for me this was now:
12:30 < rxr> Scheduling package 'mc-mp' for rebuild ...
12:30 < rxr> Scheduling package 'mkinitrd' for rebuild ...
12:30 < rxr> Scheduling package 'madwifi' for rebuild ...
12:31 < rxr> and then just re-run Build-Target, it will build the stuff Create-ErrList ... removed the log-files from
12:31 < rxr> btw. your hook works, I tested it on my side right now ...
12:31 < mpp> ah now rebuilding the package
12:31 < mpp> thanx !
12:31 < mpp> t2 is fun..
12:32 < mpp> i also want to remove the login 
12:32 < mpp> in the inittab i think
12:32 < mpp> since it is rescue
12:32 < mpp> for my X-removed version here
12:37 < mpp> how can i add some post-processing to my target before the initrd.img is build
12:37 < mpp> ?
12:40 < rxr> either by patching packages
12:40 < rxr> or if you want to add tweak files via target/.../rootfs
12:40 < mpp> thats the one 
12:40 < rxr> you probably already copied the rootfs "overlay" from the rescue target
12:40 < mpp> i did
12:40 < rxr> you can just add files, or even patch them
12:40 < mpp> so i just place a patched inittab there and rebuild ?
12:43 < rxr> yes, if you place a file there it will just be copied
12:43 < rxr> it's a little more elegant to patch a file
12:44 < rxr> you can place a patch file there starting with #!patch to indicate it's a patch
12:44 < rxr> but maybe start with replacing whole files
12:44 < mpp> can i get rid of these error logs on my build host :
12:44 < mpp>  build/pxe-rescue-8.0-trunk-pxe-rescue-x86-i486/var/adm/cache/udhcp should not be present (now in src/invalid-files.lst)!
12:45 < mpp> since these packages are'nt needed anymore
12:46 < rxr> rm `cat src/invalid-files.lst `
12:58 < CIA-5> rene * r30198 /trunk/package/network/dhcpcd/dhcpcd.conf: 
12:58 < CIA-5> Martin Papadopoulos <root@martin-papadopoulos.de>:
12:58 < CIA-5>  * fixed dhcpcd to create required var/lib/dhcpcd directory
13:06 < CIA-5> rene * r30199 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvbd/dvbd.init: 
13:06 < CIA-5> * fixed dvbd.init to not yield errors if the dvbd socket directory
13:06 < CIA-5>  already exists
13:10 < mpp> hey rxr
13:10 < mpp> can i submit my pxe-rescue tree to the t2-trunk ?
13:11 < rxr> sure if you like to
13:12 < mpp> how do i do that ?
13:12 < rxr> maybe create a tar and send it over
13:12 < mpp> okay thats cool
13:12 < mpp> send it via ? maillist :-)
13:12 < rxr> sure
13:22 < mpp> how do i deactivate the login ?
13:22 < mpp> in the inittab i think but how exactly
13:27 < rxr> replate the agetty lines with something that does not ask a password
13:27 < rxr> agetty -i 38400 vc/1 -n -l /sbin/login-shell
13:27 < rxr> ..
13:27 < rxr> might do
13:42 < mpp> does not :-)
13:43 < rxr> what does it do 
13:43 < rxr> ?
13:43 < mpp> still login prompt but i gues is screwed the line in the inittab
13:43 < mpp> ill retry
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14:20 < mpp> okay i tried but still the login prompt appears
14:29 < rxr> hm - then I would have to read man-pages and try as well ...
14:33 < mpp> okay never mind for now - ill dig around also
15:37 < mpp> @rxr: does the rescue target execute rcX.d/script ?
15:37 < mpp> i got the impression that id doesn't
15:42 < CIA-5> rene * r30200 /trunk/package/lua/luacurl/ (. luacurl.cache luacurl.conf luacurl.desc): * added luacurl (1.0) - A Lua binding providing Internet capabilities based on CURL
15:45 < rxr> ah - heh :-)(
15:45 < rxr> the rescue target uses the new, and tiny and fast init called minit
15:45 < rxr> it's based on something entirely different
15:45 < rxr> ah !"
15:45 < rxr> that's also why your inittab stuff has no effect :-)!!!
15:46 < rxr> the minit config is in /etc/minit
15:46 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/minit.html
15:48 < mpp> makes sence !
15:48 < rxr> I added "cleaning the sysfiles package to not provide the lingering inittab file but instead move it into the sysvinit package to my TODO)
15:53 < mpp> so what parmams should i pass to the fgetty besides vc/1 to avoid the prompt ?
15:53 < rxr> -l /sbin/login-shell
15:53 < rxr> ah - second
15:53 < rxr> not existing in my system
15:54 < rxr> maybe /bin/bash --login would do
15:54 < rxr> -l /bin/bash --login or so ...
15:54 < mpp> okay ill dig throug minit docu
15:54 < rxr> maybe with quotes
15:54 < rxr> it's not minit
15:54 < rxr> it's about the "getty" ...
15:54 < rxr> maybe try in a running system with vc/7 or vc/8, etc ...
15:55 < rxr> no need to rebuild image after image to give it a try
15:55 < rxr> just start the line as root ...
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17:07 < koan> hm does anyone know how I could test T2 in a virtual machine on Debian/PPC?
17:22 < mpp> okay successfully added rclocal service to pxe-rescue minit
17:22 < mpp> dhcpcd eth0 comes up 
17:22 < mpp> no on to loadkeys keymaps
18:04 < mpp> okay did some patching for ntp
18:04 < mpp> ntp needs /var/lib/ntp with an apropriate ntp.conf file
18:05 < mpp> i merged those into my local tree and into pxe-rescue
18:05 < mpp> so far dhcpcd , loadkeys  and ntp work fine
18:05 < mpp> just wat i need for a pxe-rescue
18:05 < mpp> :-) t2 - just do it 
18:06 < mpp> loadkeys also needed some files when rescue includes kbd package
18:46 < mpp> i kinda like minit
20:17 < mpp> .
20:19 < rxr> :_)
20:19 < mpp> hey rxr
20:19 < mpp> im still hacking the pxe-rescue
20:19 < rxr> you should try the original rescue target form a USB stick
20:20 < rxr> boots into X in some 7s or so
20:20 < rxr> (+ BIOS time ... of course)
20:20 < mpp> yes but i need it for server provisioning 
20:20 < mpp> so pxe is the choice here :-)
20:21 < mpp> i recently also digged through puppy linux
20:21 < mpp> iam thinking about doing a parallel fork of the t2-trunk tree and commit back to the original :-)
20:22 < mpp> stuff i do and modify
20:22 < mpp> drivers for raid controllers and tools would be interesting for server farms and stuff
20:22 < mpp> my build server at intergenia is now running on t2-7.0
20:24 < mpp> i think i will have a close look at the distcc stuff , i could set up 3-4 pc's with dual core cpus to help speeding up the built process
20:24 < CIA-5> rene * r30201 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/ (initrdinit.sh mkinitrd.sh): 
20:24 < CIA-5> * fixed new mkinitrd/init mdadm RAID support for systems without mdadm,
20:24 < CIA-5>  by making it optional
20:24 < mpp> for that purpose a initramfs and machine with 4gb ram should suffice
20:24 < mpp> i could mount the t2-trunk via network
20:25 < mpp> and have building cluster with distcc that way
20:25 < mpp> ever run the build process over nfs ?
20:25 < rxr> for distcc you do not even need the mount
20:25 < mpp> that's true
20:25 < rxr> build over nfs is quite slow - we did that in the early ROCK Linux days
20:25 < mpp> as i read the ditscc docu
20:25 < rxr> distcc streams the preprocessed source over the LAN - so the cluster "node" only needs the same compiler and all just works
20:25 < mpp> so any network file system capable or do we stick with local drives
20:26 < mpp> maybe better SAN .-)
20:26 < mpp> :-)
20:26 < mpp> minit was pretty straightforward to understand
20:26 < mpp> i kinda like it
20:28 < mpp> im still struggling with minit and fgetty to bypass the login prompt
20:28 < mpp> this kinda sucks atm
20:28 < mpp> but with params set acording to the earlier mentioned - still the prompt :-(
20:31 < CIA-5> rene * r30202 /trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): 
20:31 < CIA-5> * fixed (hopefully all) early user-space init scripts to define the
20:31 < CIA-5>  /dev tmpfs mode to 755 - SECURITY
20:47 < CIA-5> rene * r30203 /trunk/scripts/Download: 
20:47 < CIA-5> * fixed scripts/Download -all to also download all target overlay
20:47 < CIA-5>  files, by reusing the existing list_dtags function (also 14 lines
20:47 < CIA-5>  less code!)
20:52 < mpp> i diged throug fgetty
20:52 < mpp> looks like login always prompts
21:06 < mpp> hey rxr
21:06 < mpp> i read in the fgetty patch you made that the login is skipped if the user is marked with a x in shadow 
21:07 < rxr> you do not need to use fgetty
21:07 < rxr> use the normal one or directly spin shells 
21:08 < mpp> ahm i am on the issue with my pxe-rescue target
21:08 < mpp> it always prompts as minit uses fgetty 
21:08 < mpp> which you have patched
21:08 < rxr> minit does not hard codedly use fgetty
21:08 < mpp> well fgetty is fine
21:09 < rxr> you can run anything, it's just I used it in the default config
21:09 < mpp> i just can't make sence of your patch
21:09 < rxr> you can change the etc/minit/fgetty or so to anything
21:09 < rxr> the patch is for passworless logins
21:09 < mpp> which means ?
21:09 < mpp> i just want to skip the login
21:10 < rxr> by default fgetty has the "bug" that it does not login if the user has a blank password
21:10 < mpp> nothing else
21:10 < mpp> ah.
21:10 < rxr> the normal util-linux agetty one does allow no passwd
21:10 < mpp> okay..
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22:36 < mp1> hey rxr
22:36 < mp1> oops change nick
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22:38 < mpp> ge whats up with my i-net 
22:38 < mpp> anyways
22:39 < mpp> @rxr another hint maybe on the rescue target 
22:39 < mpp> fgetty uses login1 
22:39 < mpp> is that right .
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