--- Log opened Thu Sep 04 00:00:21 2008 00:01 < mpp_> . 00:02 -!- mpp_ [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has left #t2 ["Ex-Chat"] 00:02 -!- mpp_ [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has joined #t2 00:02 -!- mpp_ [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has left #t2 ["Ex-Chat"] 00:03 -!- mpp_ [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has joined #t2 00:03 -!- mpp_ [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:03 -!- mpp_ [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has joined #t2 00:04 -!- mpp_ [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:16 -!- mpp [n=user@i5387458E.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:31 -!- n6pfk [n=urk@c-76-104-40-104.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #t2 00:43 -!- n6pfk [n=urk@c-76-104-40-104.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:55 -!- mpp [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has joined #t2 04:55 -!- mpp [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has quit ["good night - good fight"] 06:52 -!- mpp [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has joined #t2 09:07 < rxr> re 09:07 [Users #t2] 09:07 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur ] [ felanha] [ mpp ] [ Ragnarin] [ |beowulf|] 09:07 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ koan ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] 09:07 [ CIA-8 ] [ Enqlave] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 09:07 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 09:17 -!- operativo [n=dfiumice@host46-104-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #t2 09:21 < mpp> bon giorno 09:21 < mpp> moin 09:21 < mpp> servus 09:21 < mpp> grützi 09:21 < mpp> und hallo 09:22 < mpp> hey 09:22 < CIA-8> rene * r30324 /trunk/package/audio/esound/esound.desc: * updated esound (0.2.39 -> 0.2.40) 09:22 < CIA-8> rene * r30326 /trunk/package/gnome2/gst-ffmpeg/gst-ffmpeg.desc: * updated gst-ffmpeg (0.10.4 -> 0.10.5) 09:22 < CIA-8> rene * r30325 /trunk/package/develop/roundup/roundup.desc: * updated roundup (1.4.5.1 -> 1.4.6) 09:22 < CIA-8> rene * r30327 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-tga/xf86-video-tga.desc: * updated xf86-video-tga (1.1.0 -> 1.2.0) 09:23 < CIA-8> rene * r30328 /trunk/package/database/sqlite/sqlite.desc: * updated sqlite (3.6.1 -> 3.6.2) 09:28 < CIA-8> rene * r30329 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-sunleo/xf86-video-sunleo.desc: * updated xf86-video-sunleo (1.1.0 -> 1.2.0) 09:28 < CIA-8> rene * r30330 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-sunffb/xf86-video-sunffb.desc: * updated xf86-video-sunffb (1.1.0 -> 1.2.0) 09:32 < operativo> buon giorno 09:33 < operativo> the morning error: 09:33 < operativo> == 09:31:06 =[5]=> Building network/apache [2.2.9 8.0-trunk]. 09:33 < operativo> -> Parallel build using 3 jobs enabled. 09:33 < operativo> -> Reading package config: package/network/apache/apache.conf 09:33 < operativo> pkgprefix: package apr is not present 09:33 < operativo> pkgprefix: package apr is not present 09:33 < operativo> pkgprefix: package apr-util is not present 09:33 < operativo> pkgprefix: package apr-util is not present 09:33 < operativo> and obliviously: 09:33 < operativo> !> checking host system type... i486-t2-linux-gnu 09:33 < operativo> !> checking target system type... i486-t2-linux-gnu 09:33 < operativo> !> Configuring Apache Portable Runtime library ... 09:33 < operativo> !> checking for APR... configure: error: the --with-apr parameter is incorrect. It must specify an install prefix, a build directory, or a .. 09:33 < operativo> !> Due to previous errors, no 5-apache.log file! 09:33 < operativo> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.) 09:33 < rxr> how did you try to build it ß 09:33 < operativo> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-apache.out -> 5-apache.err 09:34 < operativo> I need a custom target with apache installed 09:34 < rxr> so you started a new target? 09:34 < operativo> so i add the rule "x apache" in config menu 09:34 < rxr> probably only added apache, and forgot apr and apr-util 09:35 < rxr> well - for targets there is not additional dependency testing done by t2, as most target use very custom stuff 09:35 < rxr> only in-system Emerge checks deps ... 09:35 < rxr> so you need to add apr and apr-utils, likewise 09:36 < operativo> so, I should create a default target, install it on my machine and then try to use Emerge-Pkg on the new machine to get the packages I need (with satisfied dependencies)? 09:39 < mpp> afk 09:39 -!- mpp is now known as mpp_afk 09:39 < rxr> depends 09:39 < rxr> if you do not have many machines to deploy: install some generic and emerge the rest 09:40 < rxr> if you have a server room of identical machines: create your custom target for your HPC needs and deploy to many 09:41 < operativo> the second you say! :) 09:41 < operativo> I need to create a target to be installed on several identical machines 09:42 < rxr> if many is more than - let's say 4 :-) - then go with your custom target :-) 09:42 < operativo> n >> 4 :) 09:43 < rxr> the fixed target case in t2 does intenionally not perform dependency resolution, because of the many possible configurations, e.g. uclibc, or even dietlibc, other minimal shell tools than coreutils (busybox, embutils) and the variety of other embedded hackery, e.g. no X11, but only FB based rendering etc. 09:44 < rxr> btw. as your undertaking appears to be of more serious use, I would not put the package selection into the user driver Config menu, but create a complete new target in the targets directory 09:44 < rxr> with the package selection in target/.../pkgsel 09:45 < rxr> so you can version your config and also edit it more quickly, e.g. just {vi,emacs,...} target/.../pkgsel ... 09:50 < operativo> I just add X apr and X apr-utils in pkgsel and retry the build... same error... am I doing something wrong? 09:50 < rxr> hm - where apr and apr-utils built ? 09:50 < operativo> X apr and X apr-utils are before X apache 09:50 < operativo> by scripts/Build-target? no 09:51 < operativo> script/Build-target always says pkgprefix: package apr is not present 09:52 < operativo> (the same for apr-util) 09:52 < operativo> after changing pkg-sel is there something else to do before Build-Target? 09:53 < operativo> apr and apr-util are still in my local repository (download/mirror/a) 10:03 < operativo> I'm now trying to build apr and apr-util separatly with Build-Pkg... 10:04 < operativo> gosh! now Build-Target is rebuilding apr and apr-util! WTF?!? 10:11 < operativo> AAARGH! now Build-Target skipped apache!!! 10:31 < operativo> hey, this is more serious: while building openssh after successfully build openssl: 10:31 < operativo> !> configure: error: Your OpenSSL headers do not match your 10:31 < operativo> !> library. Check config.log for details. 10:31 < operativo> !> If you are sure your installation is consistent, you can disable the check 10:31 < operativo> !> by running "./configure --without-openssl-header-check". 10:36 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@89.127.175.95] has joined #t2 10:36 < Baldzius> moin 10:41 < operativo> I got the OpenSSL problem: 10:41 < operativo> checking OpenSSL header version... 90808f (OpenSSL 0.9.8h 28 May 2008) 10:41 < operativo> checking OpenSSL library version... 90807f (OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007) 10:42 < operativo> why? 11:14 < rxr> ouhm 11:19 < mtr> moin 11:48 < rxr> moin mtr 12:06 < operativo> why when I run Create-ISO i get the following errors? 12:06 < operativo> Not a valid build: default 12:06 < operativo> build/default-8.0-trunk-generic-x86-i486/TOOLCHAIN/isofs.txt must exist. 12:06 < operativo> the Build-Target was succesfull 12:07 < operativo> expect for: 12:07 < operativo> Finishing build. 12:07 < operativo> -> Creating package database ... 12:07 < operativo> -> Creating output image ... 12:07 < operativo> cp: cannot stat `/mnt/local/dfiumicello/T2/t2-trunk/build/default-8.0-trunk-generic-x86-i486/usr/embutils/tar': No such file or directory 12:07 < operativo> cp: cannot stat `/mnt/local/dfiumicello/T2/t2-trunk/build/default-8.0-trunk-generic-x86-i486/usr/embutils/readlink': No such file or directory 12:07 < operativo> cp: cannot stat `/mnt/local/dfiumicello/T2/t2-trunk/build/default-8.0-trunk-generic-x86-i486/usr/embutils/rmdir': No such file or directory 12:07 < operativo> -> Unmounting loop mounts ... 12:08 < rxr> are those errors from the Build-Target ? 12:16 < operativo> nope 12:16 < operativo> but isofs.txt dose not exists 12:18 < rxr> you post a little too much to follow ... 12:18 < rxr> which target did you base on? maybe it was a "non-CD" target ? 12:24 < operativo> Generic System, Bootstrap Package Selection (with extra packaged compiled succesfully), Install CD / DISK 12:24 < rxr> hm - ok - bootstrap might not be enough for a cd creation .-( 12:24 < rxr> guess I should try and fix what's missing to create a basically installable CD ... 12:24 < rxr> bootstrap was more meant for minimal "unpack and chroot" for a t2 build ... 12:25 < rxr> but adding the 2 missing pieces or so for a installable ISO would probably not hurt 12:25 < rxr> minimal is too big for your use case ? 12:27 < operativo> I give minimal a try... what software is missed for iso creation? 12:27 < rxr> boot loader and also some in-system stuff such as udev and so 12:28 < rxr> bootstrap really is meant as "minimal user-space, e.g. to chroot into, for t2 building 12:28 < operativo> I thought bootstrap was for a linux box wich could only boot... 12:29 < rxr> no, the boot might be misleading 12:29 < rxr> but that's how "getting a self hosting tool-chain running" is name in the IT :-( 12:29 < rxr> e.g. "bootstrapping a compiler, such as GCC" 12:29 < operativo> ok... now I swithed the config to minimal and performing a new Build-Target 12:30 < rxr> :-( 12:31 < operativo> so if i don't want gcc in my target I should use minimal instead that bootstrap? 12:31 < rxr> no, the explenation was to explain "bootstrap" 12:31 < rxr> you need gcc in any t2 configuration in order to compile source code 12:32 < rxr> bootstrap has nothing to do with computer boot 12:32 < rxr> if you want a bootable system you should start from minimal 12:32 < rxr> guess we need a) more handbook and b) more website information material 12:33 -!- mpp_afk [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has quit ["good night - good fight"] 12:37 < operativo> ok, now it's more clear :) 12:38 < operativo> but if I want to create a target that does not contain gcc and any development file how should I do? Suppose that this target should never compile anything because eventually other binary packages will be created on another machine... 12:39 < rxr> yes, you can leave gcc out of the final deployment, but first it has to be part of the t2 build selection 12:40 < operativo> how do I do this? 12:41 < rxr> in a pre-built image with everything you can set filters, based on packagse and files 12:41 < rxr> for an installation you just do not select the packages, as in other linux distributions 12:42 < operativo> is there a way to select packages that will be installed by default from the install cd? 12:43 < rxr> not yet, but cyda just asked for automated install last week or so 12:43 < rxr> we definetly can improve the installer for automation 12:44 < operativo> ok, at least now I know it! :) thank you very much 12:44 < operativo> now I'm building the remaining packages to get the minimal version... hope everything works! 12:49 < CIA-8> rene * r30331 /trunk/package/graphic/ocropus/ (ocropus.conf ocropus.desc): * updated ocropus (r95 -> 0.2) 13:04 < operativo> sigh.. got a problem compiling gdb: 13:05 < operativo> xml-support.c:480: error: storage size of 'status' isn't known 13:05 < operativo> xml-support.c: In function 'gdb_xml_use_dtd': 13:05 < operativo> xml-support.c:528: warning: implicit declaration of function 'XML_UseForeignDTD' 13:05 < operativo> xml-support.c:528: error: 'XML_TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function) 13:05 < operativo> xml-support.c:528: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once 13:05 < operativo> xml-support.c:528: error: for each function it appears in.) 13:05 < operativo> xml-support.c: In function 'gdb_xml_parse': 13:05 < operativo> xml-support.c:544: error: storage size of 'status' isn't known 13:05 < operativo> make[2]: *** [xml-support.o] Error 1 13:05 < operativo> anyone had it? 13:15 -!- mpp [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has joined #t2 13:58 < rxr> hm 13:58 < rxr> not really 13:58 < rxr> you hit interesting things :_9 13:59 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.71.161] has quit [Client Quit] 14:04 < mpp> hey rxr 14:18 < operativo> using var_append confopt ' ' "--with-expat=no" in gdb.conf do the trick! 14:21 < rxr> ah, good to know - will fix 14:21 < rxr> pkginstalled expat || var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-expat=no" 14:21 < rxr> should do 14:37 < CIA-8> rene * r30332 /trunk/package/network/wireshark/wireshark.desc: * updated wireshark (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3) 14:47 < CIA-8> rene * r30333 /trunk/package/graphic/tesseract/ocropus-2.03.patch: * added tesseract "hotfix?" patch found inside ocropus, ... 15:00 < mpp> stage2 of the installer gives an error when using ssh it complains about missing libzo.so.1 15:00 < mpp> would be nice to have ssh working on stage2 15:11 < mpp> iptraf is missing /var/run/iptraf 15:11 < rxr> can you provide a patch for the iptraf case? 15:12 < rxr> hook_add postmake 5 "mkdir -p $root/var/run/iptraf" or so in the package's .conf ? 15:24 < mpp> okay 15:24 < mpp> seem quite busy the t2-project 15:24 < mpp> which is cool 15:24 < rxr> i:-) 15:24 < rxr> if you tested the line let me know to commit it :-) 15:25 < mpp> ah okay 15:25 < mpp> im just getting used to t2 15:26 < mpp> do i need to repackage ? 15:26 < rxr> repackage ? 15:26 < mpp> sorry 15:26 -!- n6pfk [n=urk@c-76-104-40-104.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #t2 15:26 < rxr> either rebuild it with -job or (-newremove ; buil-target) 15:26 * rxr back in some minutes 15:27 < mpp> wrong line 15:29 < mpp> okay patch done 15:29 < mpp> directory got created 15:29 -!- Dallur [n=earl@fgfw.basis.is] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:32 < mpp> dhcpcd has an advantage over dhclient 15:32 < mpp> it creates automaticly an ntp.conf for timesyning 15:32 < mpp> which is kinda cool i think 15:33 < rxr> aha :-) 15:33 < rxr> interesting feature 15:35 < rxr> you just pasted the line into the .conf as I posted it here and I can commit, now ? 15:40 -!- operativo [n=dfiumice@host46-104-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 15:43 < mpp> you re good to go 15:43 < mpp> works fine 15:43 -!- n6pfk [n=urk@c-76-104-40-104.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:44 < mpp> @rxr im trying to figure out how to get an additional module into stage2 of the installer 15:44 < mpp> the stage2 building is kinda nested .... 15:44 < mpp> heavily ! :-() 15:48 < mpp> we could also provide a minimum default config for ntp 15:48 < mpp> like 4 lines 15:48 < mpp> x.pool.ntp.org 15:51 < rxr> redhat buys out qumranet, the creator of kvm ... 15:52 < CIA-8> rene * r30334 /trunk/package/network/iptraf/iptraf.conf: * added $root/var/run/iptraf creation to iptraf 15:53 < mpp> ... 15:53 < mpp> youre comment on this ? 15:54 < rxr> none :-9 15:54 < mpp> lol 15:55 < mpp> how do you do dependency checks on new packages 15:55 < mpp> any dev scripts 15:55 < mpp> ? 15:56 < rxr> there are some aging sorting helpers but the plan is to use the .cache files directly in the future to span the depenncy graphcs ... 15:56 < rxr> the deps as it are auto-created into the .cache file from "utlized files during the build, such as loaded header (.h) files and linked libraries (.a, .so, ...) 15:58 < mpp> i see 15:58 < mpp> so any hint on how i can get an additional module into the stage2 ? 16:00 -!- Dallur [n=earl@fgfw.basis.is] has joined #t2 16:01 -!- Dallur [n=earl@fgfw.basis.is] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:01 -!- Dallur [n=earl@fgfw.basis.is] has joined #t2 16:06 < rxr> kernel module ?` 16:08 < rxr> or the missing library for ssh ? 16:10 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 16:10 < mpp> kernel module first :-) 16:10 < rxr> hm - have to take a look, which modules are you missing ? 16:13 < mpp> none 16:13 < rxr> but you add one ? 16:13 < mpp> wanted to add ext4dev 16:13 < rxr> was it build within the kernel? 16:13 < rxr> maybe it is just missing because it was not build along the kernel ? 16:16 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 16:17 < rxr> mpp: report a bug, get an update for free :-) 16:17 < rxr> Committed revision 30335. 16:17 < CIA-8> rene * r30335 /trunk/package/network/iptraf/ (compile-fix.patch iptraf.conf iptraf.desc): * updated iptraf (3.0.0 -> 3.0.1) 16:17 < mpp> okay its more kinda dev so... 16:18 < mpp> never mind 16:18 < mpp> i'll dig into it later 16:18 < mpp> the ssh lib issue would be nice to have - 16:19 < mpp> the ext4 modules was built 16:19 < mpp> sorry missed the line above 16:20 < rxr> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/02/google_chrome_comic_funnies/ 16:20 < mpp> point was more that it is not in the stage2 from the installer 16:20 < mpp> checking comics 16:20 < rxr> so - all the installer image output processng should live here: target/share/install/ 16:21 < mpp> i figured out already 16:21 < mpp> learned already some things from you 16:21 < mpp> ahm 16:21 < mpp> maybe i should load the module within the building host 16:21 < rxr> ok - will take a look - err - write it to my "not so white anymore" whiteboard 16:22 < rxr> no the building host will not influence it 16:22 < mpp> gee need a cleaning staff 16:22 < mpp> okay 16:22 < rxr> though we could start adding it to the general initrd, then it should be available in the installer anyway 16:22 < mpp> the there is only hone place i 16:22 < mpp> initrdinit 16:22 < mpp> ill modify and check 16:22 < rxr> not initrdinit, more mkinitrd 16:23 < rxr> you need to rebuild your kernel then for the mkinitrd init to have effect and include the module in your fresh build 16:24 < mpp> allright 16:33 < CIA-8> rene * r30336 /trunk/package/games/scummvm/scummvm.desc: * updated scummvm (0.11.1 -> 0.12.0) 16:36 < mpp> okay done 16:36 < mpp> so the package had to be extended 16:36 < mpp> mkinitrd.sh 16:37 < mpp> line 79 16:37 < mpp> 79 -e reiserfs -e reiser4 -e ext4dev -e ext2 -e ext3 -e /jfs -e /xfs \ 16:38 < mpp> im testing it and report back 16:39 < rxr> crossinging finger 16:39 < rxr> s 16:39 < rxr> so - little more in the background to archive some work 16:40 < mpp> do that stuff that has to be done - laotse whenever that was 16:43 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@82.152.40.161] has joined #t2 16:51 -!- n6pfk [n=urk@c-76-104-40-104.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #t2 16:59 -!- Dallur [n=earl@fgfw.basis.is] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:16 -!- n6pfk [n=urk@c-76-104-40-104.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:16 < mpp> hmm... 17:22 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:28 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 18:10 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@82.152.40.161] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:16 < mpp> hey rxr 18:16 < mpp> finally succeded 18:17 < mpp> could we take the ext4dev into the mkinitrd ? 19:07 < Ragnarin> ext4dev? 19:11 < rxr> mpp: maybe just write ext4, should also match, especially when they remove the "ext" extension 19:14 < felanha> am I the only one stuck at e2fsprogs in stage 1? it doesn't look for libcom_err.so.2 in lib64, no clue how to point it there ;-) 19:17 < rxr> no, I have a test case where it shows up likewise 19:18 < rxr> you could either hunt it, downdate as suggested on the mailing list, or wait for someone else to fix it :-) 19:18 < felanha> being lazy, I guess I'll wait ;-) thx 19:24 < rxr> ok - cu then - leaving the office - have fun - STOP 19:37 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.71.161] has joined #t2 19:56 < mpp> doesn't its explicitly ext4dev 19:58 < Ragnarin> ? 20:10 < mpp> its called ext4dev 20:10 < mpp> until it is official release as stable 20:13 < Ragnarin> ya ... so what's the problem? 20:17 -!- mich1985 [n=mich1985@stgt-5d825f1d.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 20:17 < mich1985> hello all 20:28 < mpp> who said problem... 20:29 < mpp> hi mich1985 20:29 < mich1985> hi mpp 20:57 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mqueiros_, @ChanServ, axionix, felanha 20:58 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ, mqueiros_, axionix, felanha 20:59 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@89.127.175.95] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:59 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@89.127.175.95] has joined #t2 21:13 < mich1985> cu@all 21:13 -!- mich1985 [n=mich1985@stgt-5d825f1d.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit ["Java user signed off"] 21:18 < mpp> bye 22:55 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [shutting down] 22:55 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #t2 22:55 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net 23:15 -!- mpp [n=user@i53876B54.versanet.de] has quit ["good night - good fight"] 23:24 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@89.127.175.95] has quit ["Leaving"] --- Log closed Fri Sep 05 00:00:27 2008