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08:31 < mtr> moin
09:32 < rxr> moin
09:33 < koan> is it normal that building a 64 bit G5 target builds glibc32 next to glibc?
09:35 < rxr> yes, for 32bit multilib
09:35 < rxr> just as on amd64
09:36 < rxr> glibc is the 64 package, glibc32 the "if you ever need a 32bit program" flavour
09:36 < koan> ah ok
09:36 < koan> I was wondering because the compilation is taking a lot of time
09:42 < rxr> on which box?
09:42 < rxr> but, yes, glibc is a cpu cycle wasting pig ... :-(
09:44 < koan> G5 1,8 GHz
09:45 < koan> building glibc needed more than an hour
09:48 < rxr> single core?
09:48 < rxr> but yes, glibc is one of the longest building packages
09:48 < rxr> I agree, unbelievable for a system C library :-(((
09:49 < rxr> we build all ppc related stuff on a dual-core G5 @2GHz
09:50 < koan> single core, yes
09:50 < rxr> yeah - well - good thing is you will not rebuild your C library too often :-)
09:50 < rxr> most other packages build faster, except openoffice .-)
09:50 < koan> :-)
09:55 < koan> finally, glibc32 finished after an hour and a half :-)
09:56 < rxr> you build on an installed t2 system?
09:56 < rxr> which target and t2 version do you build ?
09:58 < koan> no I'm building on a debian lenny system
09:58 < rxr> ah, ok
09:58 < koan> t2 trunk
09:58 < rxr> never tried that for ppc, (I only test that for intel)
09:58 < koan> heh :-)
09:58 < rxr> oh, ok - which target ?
09:58 < koan> so I have to hold my fingers crossed :-)
09:59 < koan> generic, minimal-xorg for powerpc64 and optimized for G5
09:59 < rxr> ah , good
10:00 < koan> for when it's finished: I have a question
10:00 < CIA-8> rene * r30379 /trunk/package/python/python-lxml/python-lxml.desc: * updated python-lxml (2.1 -> 2.1.2)
10:00 < koan> I have two hard disks in my box, one with debian lenny, the other one empty, can I install T2 on the second one without having to use a cd rom install image?
10:01 < rxr> as advanced user with some manual typing you can
10:01 < koan> so I just have to partition the drive, copy the files and install a boot loader?
10:02 < rxr> yes, rsync the sandbox and initializie yaboot
10:02 < rxr> (and best run the postinstall stuff to register some stuff and set a root password :-)
10:02 < koan> ok I think I saw something in the T2 handbook about it?
10:03 < CIA-8> rene * r30380 /trunk/package/base/pcre/pcre.desc: * updated pcre (7.7 -> 7.8)
10:03 < rxr> yes, there should be some paragraph about advanced / manual install
10:03 < CIA-8> rene * r30381 /trunk/package/xorg/pixman/pixman.desc: * updated pixman (0.11.8 -> 0.11.10)
10:03 < CIA-8> rene * r30382 /trunk/package/base/libtool/libtool.desc: * updated libtool (2.2.4 -> 2.2.6a)
10:05 < CIA-8> rene * r30383 /trunk/package/network/pdnsd/pdnsd.desc: * updated pdnsd (1.2.6 -> 1.2.7)
10:06 < CIA-8> rene * r30377 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: 
10:06 < CIA-8> * added autoconf (now required by automake) and mpfr (now required
10:06 < CIA-8>  by gcc) to the embedded example target
10:06 < CIA-8> rene * r30384 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * updated poppler (0.8.6 -> 0.8.7)
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11:49 < mpp> moin
12:27 < CIA-8> rene * r30385 /trunk/package/perl/perl-spreadsheet-write-excel/perl-spreadsheet-write-excel.desc: * updated perl-spreadsheet-write-excel (2.23 -> 2.24)
12:30 < CIA-8> aldas * r30367 /trunk/package/editors/emacs/emacs.desc: * updated emacs (22.2 -> 22.3)
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14:24 < mpp> @rxr : after dealing with mtn , i took a closer look at bazaar
14:25 < rxr> did not work out so godd ?
14:25 < rxr> good even
14:25 < mpp> it's kinda awesome.. i say it ownes
14:25 < rxr> btw. my personal favourite these days is mercurial (hg)
14:25 < mpp> bazaar is pretty much state of the art
14:25 < mpp> yea i know
14:25 < mpp> everything that works fine is fine
14:25 < mpp> but i have to attmit bzr rules
14:26 < mpp> :-)
14:26 < mpp> might wanna have look at it ?
14:27 < mpp> there is a really cool presentation : http://people.ubuntu.com/~ianc/talks/Getting-Started-with-Bazaar.pdf
14:27 < mpp> i had i up and runnging in a very few minutes
14:27 < mpp> so ill check svn into bzr which and see how it goes
14:28 < mpp> for the time beeing ill sync svn to my local branch in bzr
14:28 < mpp> upstreaming to svn should also be pretty straightforward
16:20 < CIA-8> gweis * r30369 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * call automake with --add-missing if autogen==1 and not autogen.sh is provided
16:27 < CIA-8> rene * r30389 /trunk/package/games/freeciv/freeciv.desc: * updated freeciv (2.1.5 -> 2.1.6)
16:46 < mpp> hey rxr you said you have hg in use for t2 ?
16:47 < rxr> nope, I said I gave up trying to sync it
16:47 < rxr> I use hg for preparing bigger changes, to backup, group and replay them ...
16:48 < CIA-8> rene * r30390 /trunk/package/archiver/grzip/grzip.desc: * marked grzip FPIC-QUIRK, for non-i386, x86-64 and co
16:50 < mpp> ah allright
16:51 < mpp> wy did you stopped syncing ?
17:04 < rxr> I wrote earlier that it did not work out
17:04 < rxr> the t2 history is to massive and complex, the built-in svn-hg converted failed
17:11 < mpp> ..ak
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18:02 < Baldzius> moin
18:21 < koan> how can I solve this build error? http://pastebin.com/m28fd1e44
18:27 < rxr> run svn up
18:27 < rxr> if you want to be on the safe side, only:
18:28 < rxr> svn up package/filesystem/e2fsprogs/
18:28 < rxr> to not get receive other, random changes and updates
18:28 < rxr> hi Baldzius 
18:28 < Baldzius> hey rxr
18:29 < koan> thanks, I'll try
18:40 < koan> ok that worked
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