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08:56 < mtr> moin
09:02 < rxr> hi
09:17 < mtr> hi rxr 
09:24 < CIA-4> rene * r30874 /trunk/package/editors/geany/geany.desc: * updated geany (0.14 -> 0.15)
09:24 < CIA-4> rene * r30875 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring.desc: * updated gnome-keyring (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
09:24 < CIA-4> rene * r30876 /trunk/package/gnome2/gconf-editor/gconf-editor.desc: * updated gconf-editor (2.24.0.1 -> 2.24.1)
09:24 < CIA-4> rene * r30877 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.4.4-5 -> 6.4.4-9)
09:24 < CIA-4> rene * r30878 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libwww/perl-libwww.desc: * updated perl-libwww (5.817 -> 5.818)
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09:28 < CIA-4> rene * r30883 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.36.7 -> 2.4.36.8)
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09:34 < rxr> hi gw 
09:34 < CIA-4> rene * r30884 /trunk/package/base/pmount/pmount.desc: * updated pmount (0.9.17 -> 0.9.18)
10:00 < gw> hi rxr
10:33 < CIA-4> rene * r30885 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/ (mesa.desc pkg_xorg-server_post.conf): 
10:33 < CIA-4> * changed mesa build priority (112.467 -> 112.400) to build before
10:33 < CIA-4>  xorg-server, removed xorg-server source extraction
10:45 < rxr> mtr: can you share your linux26 update work as patch on some http location or email?
10:45 < rxr> (or just commit it the base and unionfs+squashfs build reasonably)
10:46 < rxr> I might have some timeslot to look at the reminder (the kconfig problem you mentioned and/or 3rd party modules)
10:47 < mtr> ok, I'll start commiting now
10:47 < rxr> great :-)
10:47 < mtr> though I have a keyboard/mouse problem with the new kernel
10:48 < rxr> ouhm :-(
10:48 < rxr> we need alt. kernels in t2 ...
10:48 < rxr> the linux regression madness gets insane ...
10:48 < mtr> maybe a module is not properly loaded
10:48 < rxr> what kind of problems do you experience ?
10:48 < mtr> no keyboard and mouse input, both dead
10:48 < rxr> atusch
10:49 < rxr> ok - anyway, flush it and I
10:49 < rxr> 'll have fun helping tracking it ...
10:49 < mtr> ok ;-)
10:50 < mtr> and I disabled l7-filter - the patch did not compile properly, and I did not found updates
10:50 < rxr> yeah - I think it did not apply often before
10:50 < mtr> probably the userspace version is the preferred way
10:50 < rxr> we should disable it by default or so
10:54 < CIA-4> mtr * r30886 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (6 files): 
10:54 < CIA-4> * updated linux26 (2.6.26.6 -> 2.6.27)
10:54 < CIA-4> * rediffed core patches, rewrote parts of the no2modconfig patch,
10:54 < CIA-4>  removed obsolete patches
10:56 < CIA-4> mtr * r30887 /trunk/package/filesystem/squashfs-tools/ (hotfix-sched_h.patch pkg_linux_pre.conf squashfs-tools.desc): 
10:56 < CIA-4> * updated squashfs-tools (3.3 -> 3.4)
10:56 < CIA-4> * extended version2patch translation for kernel 2.6.27
10:57 < rxr> mtr: there is already a 2.6.27.2 patch do you want to update or shall I commit ?
10:59 < mtr> I just wanted to keep the updates seperate, if you like you can update to .2
10:59 < rxr> ok - all fine, will do
11:00 < CIA-4> mtr * r30888 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/ (linux-2.6.26.patch.kernel unionfs.desc): * updated unionfs (0.2.1-2.3.3 -> 0.2.1-2.4)
11:02 < CIA-4> rene * r30889 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.27 -> 2.6.27.1)
11:02 < mtr> rxr: gspca driver is part of kernel, so I'll delete package gspcav now
11:03 < rxr> yep
11:03 < rxr> linux-uvc, likewise (as far as I read)
11:03 < CIA-4> rene * r30890 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.27.1 -> 2.6.27.2)
11:06 < CIA-4> mtr * r30891 /trunk/package/multimedia/gspcav/: 
11:06 < CIA-4> * removed package gspcav: the gspca usb camera driver
11:06 < CIA-4>  is part of the linux kernel since 2.6.27
11:07 < mtr> so I'll delete linux-uvc as well, its in kernel since 2.6.26 (regarding to heise kernel log ...)
11:10 < rxr> yes, the heise log was what I read as well - let's hope it's true ... .-)
11:10 < rxr> maybe I better take a quick look at the actual source *g*
11:11 < rxr> ./drivers/media/video/uvc/
11:11 < rxr> and uvc_isight... that looks good
11:13 < mtr> :)
11:13 < rxr> not that I ever used my iSight, but ...
11:14 < rxr> the diff between the 2.6.26 and 2.6.27 kconfig as auto-created is huge
11:15 < rxr> some of the lines suggest that there might be a bug in the new no2modconfig code that does not select stuff as module but built-in
11:15 < rxr> (y instead of m)
11:16 < rxr> I doubt one would wakt 4KSTACKS or MMIOTRACE built-in by default (among other things)
11:16 < rxr> will review in detail
11:21 < CIA-4> mtr * r30892 /trunk/package/multimedia/linux-uvc/: 
11:21 < CIA-4> * removed package linux-uvc: support for uvc devices
11:21 < CIA-4>  is included in the mainstream kernel since 2.6.26
11:22 < rxr> not .27 ?
11:24 < mtr> heise kernel log says .26, so ...
11:24 < rxr> ok
11:25 < rxr> "heise", our new source of kernel changes, *lol*
11:25 < mtr> I found that a lot of CONFIG_ options are 'y' now, were they have been disabled before
11:25 < mtr> :)
11:25 < rxr> ack to the "y" issue
11:25 < rxr> most should probably still be disabled or "m"
11:25 < rxr> maybe a regression from the no2modconfig rewrite
11:26 < rxr> I'll probably take a look after lunch
11:26 < mtr> like CONFIG_X86_GENERIC=y, or CONFIG_EMBEDDED ...
11:26 < rxr> well - while _GENERIC is quite fine
11:26 < rxr> use that in other targets too
11:27 < rxr> but the DEBUGGING stuff and 4KSTACKS are highly problematic
11:27 < rxr> like KPROBES and MMIOTRACE etc.
11:27 < mtr> yep
11:27 < rxr> guess that's a selection bug on our side
11:27 < rxr> and also ordinary drivers are now selected built-in
11:27 < rxr> (many, not all)
11:28 < rxr> xorg-server + nv has a nice new bug
11:28 < rxr> starts in some 640x480 or so resolution on my external LCD, instead of the 1680x1050 or what it is
11:28 < rxr> though post-start xrandr works ...
11:28 < rxr> guess I'll have to hunt that, too :-((
11:57 < CIA-4> rene * r30893 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-vesa/no-ddc-option.patch: * added NoDDC option to xf86-video-vesa (not yet tested)
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12:22 < mtr> rxr: all the 'y' settings stem from the no2modconfig, my re-work was incomplete
12:22 < mtr> http://rafb.net/p/F1WmJl80.html
12:22 < mtr>       ^--- works much better
12:22 < mtr> and checks to only set tristate symbols from no -> mod
12:31 < CIA-4> rene * r30894 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xcfgt2.sh: 
12:31 < CIA-4> * improved xorg-server/xcfgt2.sh to accept overrides via the kernel
12:31 < CIA-4>  command line, such as: xdriver=, xdepth= and xmodes=,...
12:31 < mtr> hmm, still not perfect ...
12:32 < rxr> hmm?
12:32 < rxr> can you commit the improvement, I would start a fresh build while I'm at lunch :-)
12:38 < CIA-4> mtr * r30895 /trunk/package/base/linux26/12-conf-hacks.patch: 
12:38 < CIA-4> * fixed no2modconfig kernel configurator to only
12:38 < CIA-4>  set tristate symbols to be build as module and
12:38 < CIA-4>  and not to enable all boolean values...
12:42 < rxr> ok - build running - cu soon
13:20 < rxr> re
13:20 < CIA-4> mtr * r30896 /trunk/package/base/linux26/12-conf-hacks.patch: 
13:20 < CIA-4> * fixed another bug in no2modconfig kernel configurator introduced
13:20 < CIA-4>  by the rework due to 2.6.27 changes: set tristate symbols to 'm'
13:20 < CIA-4>  but keep 'y' settings from previously generated default settings
13:21 < rxr> heh, ok - new build .-) good the box has some cores
13:22 < mtr> oh yes, I'm sorry about the confusion :(
13:26 < mtr> now the .config diff to the previous 2.6.26.x looks much better
13:26 < rxr> no problem, that someone else does  the major linux26 update is highly welcome!
13:29 < rxr> yes, mostly good
13:30 < mtr> what about the ipw3945 package? since 2.6.23 the kernel has IWL3945 support
13:30 < rxr> rm
13:30 < mtr> ok
13:35 < CIA-4> rene * r30897 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-net.conf.m4: * marked CONFIG_ISDN=y (not m) as needed for 2.6.27.x
13:35 < CIA-4> mtr * r30898 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb-linux-fusion/ (dfb-linux-fusion.desc postlinux.conf): * updated dfb-linux-fusion (8.0.1 -> 8.0.2)
13:36 < mtr> rxr: CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y necessary as well
13:37 < rxr> yes ?
13:37 < rxr> m should be enough, no ?
13:37 < mtr> m is invalid
13:38 < rxr> hm?
13:38 < rxr> kernel folks suprise me every hour ...
13:38 < rxr> not possible to build as module anymore ?
13:38 < mtr> linux26.out: symbol value 'm' invalid for USB_HIDDEV
13:39 < rxr> grml
13:39 < CIA-4> rene * r30899 /trunk/architecture/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
13:39 < CIA-4> * do not always include MATH_EMULATION in the linux kernel config,
13:39 < CIA-4>  only for (32bit) sparc and x86 optimized for i[34]86
13:40 < rxr> hm - but it's a tristate
13:41 < rxr> maybe the invalid message is due to some other dependenxy built-in?
13:41 < CIA-4> mtr * r30900 /trunk/package/multimedia/lirc/ (disable-portaudio.patch lirc.desc postlinux.conf): * updated lirc (0.8.2 -> 0.8.4)
13:41 < rxr> like bluetooth and other fluff being built in and thus forcing _HID stuff to be built-in ?
13:41 < rxr> I would like to build as much as possible as module by default
13:42 < rxr> that does not only keep the bare kernel down, but also is more joy in case of bugs or development, like reloading a updated / fixed etc. module without reboot
13:42 < rxr> ah - ok - sorry
13:42 < rxr> HIDDEV != USB_HID ...
13:42 < rxr> USB_HIDDEV indeed is a bool
13:42 < rxr> bool "/dev/hiddev raw HID device support"
13:43 < rxr> devices, like monitor controls and Uninterruptable Power Supplies.
13:43 < rxr> ok, =y it ...
13:43 < rxr> it's an option of the stuff then built as module ...
13:49 < rxr> -CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y
13:49 < rxr> +CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m
13:49 < rxr> -CONFIG_SERIO_SERPORT=y
13:49 < rxr> +CONFIG_SERIO_SERPORT=m
13:52 < rxr> 1503248 vmlinuz_2.6.26.6-dist
13:52 < rxr> 1518640 vmlinuz_2.6.27.2-dist
14:38 < CIA-4> rene * r30901 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xcfgt2.sh: 
14:38 < CIA-4> * further improved xorg-server/xcfgt2.sh with another user override:
14:38 < CIA-4>  xddc=0 allows to skip DDC probing (hangs some embedded tiny BIOS')
14:38 < CIA-4> * includes moving the override parsing before the mode detection
14:38 < CIA-4> * includes some comments for code blocks
14:39 < koan> which package should I install to overcome this error in building xorg-server?
14:39 < koan> checking for GL... configure: error: Package requirements (glproto >= 1.4.9 gl >= 7.1.0)
14:39 < rxr> mesa
14:40 < rxr> I just fixed the build priority this morning
14:40 < koan> ah thanks
14:40 < rxr> before xorg-server 1.5 the GL build procedure differed majory, thus the temp. regression
14:49 < koan> hmm and checking for PCIACCESS... configure: error: Package requirements (pciaccess >= 0.8.0)
14:49 < rxr> libpciaccess ?
14:49 < koan> ah ok
14:49 < rxr> it's not in the .cache ?
14:50 < koan> it tries to find the package pciaccess, which it evidently doesn't find
14:51 < rxr> # ./scripts/Find-Pkg pciaccess
14:51 < rxr> Searching for matching package names ...
14:51 < rxr> xorg/libpciaccess
14:51 < koan> no it's not in the cache file
14:51 < rxr> ok - fill fix
14:51 < koan> ok thanks for the Find-Pkg script, I'm still searching my way through all these helper scripts
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15:46 < rxr> Linux silverrider 2.6.27.2-dist #1 SMP Mon Oct 20 15:27:42 CEST 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
15:47 < rxr> mtr: my integrated USB keyboard and touch do work
15:47 < rxr> will try later on a PC99 PS2 equipped box
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15:59 < CIA-4> rene * r30902 /trunk/package/base/linux26/eth-naming.patch: * more unified wlan^Wwifi^Weth naming for wireless ethernet drivers
16:02 < CIA-4> rene * r30903 /trunk/package/base/linux26/eth-naming.patch: * fixed double chunk in patch introduced in r30902
16:03 < mtr> rxr: have .27 running now, too - no problems so far
16:03 < mtr> Linux mwork 2.6.27-dist #1 SMP Mon Oct 20 13:47:36 CEST 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
16:04 < rxr> the problem of non-matching ath9k wlan interface name should also be addressed
16:04 < rxr> mtr: you have a ps2 kbd + mice that works?
16:04 < rxr> I mostly have non-PS2 stuff ...
16:05 < mtr> yes, old ps2 kbd & mouse
16:06 < rxr> great
16:07 < mtr> it seems the malunction from this morning was caused by the modules misconfiguration
16:07 < rxr> ack
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20:53 < CIA-4> mtr * r30904 /trunk/package/filesystem/squashfs-tools/hotfix-sched_h.patch: * rediffed squashfs-tools patch for older kernel revisions
20:53 < CIA-4> mtr * r30905 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb-linux-fusion/linux-mm-2.6.27.patch: * fixed DirectFB linux-fusion module for kernel 2.6.27
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