T2 IRC Log: 2008-10-29
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--- Log opened Wed Oct 29 00:00:48 2008
01:12 -!- freakz [n=freakz@189-92-98-24.3g.claro.net.br] has joined #t2
01:13 < freakz> how to force an update on "Automatic update avoided"
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09:58 < mtr> moin
09:59 < rxr> moin mtr
09:59 [Users #t2]
09:59 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ gw ] [ mpp ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX]
09:59 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ koan] [ mtr ] [ soopurman]
09:59 [ CIA-13 ] [ felanha] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stealth ]
09:59 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
09:59 < rxr> hi Stealth gw
09:59 < rxr> freakz: with -force
10:00 < gw> hi all
10:27 < mpp> moinsen
11:24 -!- andrew81 [n=andrewt@60-234-224-61.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #t2
11:26 < andrew81> has anyone there given grsecurity a whirl when using trunk? i get patches failing during the linux-headers stage, and presumably would at the kernel compilation stage.
11:26 < CIA-13> rene * r31055 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (1.10 -> 1.11)
11:26 < CIA-13> rene * r31056 /trunk/package/filesystem/cdrkit/cdrkit.desc: * updated cdrkit (1.1.8 -> 1.1.9)
11:26 < CIA-13> rene * r31054 /trunk/scripts/Download:
11:26 < CIA-13> * fixed scripts/Dowload -all to correctly featch all version
11:26 < CIA-13> controlled checkouts (CVS, SVN, ...), again
11:26 < rxr> andrew81: I guess it's not so used, and the support might be bittorren a little
11:27 < mpp> no grsec in use - sorry
11:27 < andrew81> i figured that much, i'll first establish why my coworker wants grsecurity before i delve into it deeper.
11:30 < andrew81> i presume that one cannot use a subversion repository as a source for "source code" for a package?
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11:40 < rxr> andrew81: one can
11:45 < rxr> andrew81: grep '\[D\].*svn' package/*/*/*.desc
11:45 [Users #t2]
11:45 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-13] [ felanha] [ LMJ] [ Ragnarin ] [ Stealth]
11:45 [ andrew81] [ Cyda ] [ gw ] [ mpp] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
11:45 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ koan ] [ mtr] [ soopurman]
11:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
11:46 < andrew81> awesome, just read the source. this t2 framework is just what i was after
11:50 < rxr> you're welcome
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15:28 < mtr> rxr: qemu svn snapshot looks really fine, though I cannot test all the targets
15:29 < mtr> builds without all the gcc4 patches, supports system targets i386, x86_64, arm, mips/el, sh4, cris
15:29 < rxr> mtr: yes, I use Qemu SVN regularly
15:29 < rxr> yeah - and adds ppc64 host support
15:30 < mtr> what do you think about updating to svn?
15:30 < rxr> hope there is a release in the next weeks :-)?
15:30 < rxr> I usually use kvm anyway, maybe it's cleaner to leave qemu for the next release and rather get a more integrated and updated kvm packages .-)
15:31 * mtr leaving a qemu-dev package lingering around ...
15:31 < rxr> hehe, okok, update qemu :-)
15:34 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@217.70.71.152] has joined #t2
15:35 < mtr> ;-)
15:35 < mtr> nice thing with qemu is the multi-architecture support, I often use mipsel and sh4 targets
15:35 < mtr> or does kvm support this as well?
15:36 < rxr> in theory yes, but only x86 (and in theory ia64/ppc) are hardware accelerated
15:36 < mtr> afaik kvm is architecture dependent x86/x86_64, right?
15:36 < rxr> the good thing is kvm is blazingly fast on cpus with hardware virtualization
15:36 < rxr> I run even OSX and Windows in it ...
15:37 < rxr> but then I'm evil
15:37 < mtr> :)
15:37 < rxr> but the kvm glue is gradually merged back into qemu, now
15:37 < rxr> so in the future qemu will transparently be accelerated by either old-style kqemu, or new-style kvm
15:38 < mtr> yes, I've read some post on the qemu-dev list about kvm merge
15:39 < rxr> actually I run some heavily patched kvm for the OS X virtualization ...
15:48 < CIA-13> aldas * r31057 /trunk/package/multimedia/libzvbi/libzvbi.desc: * updated libzvbi (0.2.32 -> 0.2.33)
16:29 < mpp> hey rxr - do you know how to get svn::core running with git inside t2
16:29 < mpp> there is a module callend SVN::Core.pm missing
16:29 < mpp> maybe you have a hint for me
16:43 < rxr> what do you try to use?
16:44 < rxr> I recently noticed that subversion also installs the python modules in a directory not found by python by default
16:44 < rxr> if you mean the svn Perl bindings they might be likewise "miss-installed"
16:59 < mpp> yes the svn perl bindings
16:59 < mpp> i was trying to import a svn repo into git
17:06 < rxr> ic
17:07 < rxr> as I wrote I noticed (for svn to mercurial conversion) that the python bindings are also not installed where they belong too
17:07 < rxr> guess we have to fix both install locations
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18:05 < mpp> what packages are those ?
18:05 < mpp> No package 'glib-2.0' found
18:05 < mpp> No package 'gthread-2.0' found
18:05 < mpp> i'm not quite sure about them
18:05 < mpp> help welcome
18:08 < koan> no output in ./scripts/Find-Pkg gthread?
18:09 < mpp> nope
18:09 < mpp> the first one seems to be gnome/glib
18:10 < mpp> but the second is puzzling me
18:10 < koan> which package are you building?
18:12 < mtr> gthread is included in glib
18:12 < mpp> k thanx mtr
18:12 < mpp> koan: i needed those for sshfs
18:13 < mtr> this refers to pkg-config ".pc" files which are not found
18:13 < mtr> if you add glib you'll have gthread as well
18:43 < rxr> glib
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22:06 [Users #t2]
22:06 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ felanha] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ soopurman]
22:06 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ gw ] [ mpp ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stealth ]
22:06 [ CIA-13 ] [ DuckFault] [ koan ] [ mqueiros] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
22:06 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
22:10 -!- gw [n=gw@2001:44b8:62:7f0:21b:63ff:fe01:f18d] has left #t2 ["Leaving"]
22:53 < koan> I'm reading the T2 handbook, how's it going with the Minix port?
23:40 < koan> hm building gtk+12 fails with a lot of messages "Created file outside allowed top-level dir"
23:40 < koan> http://www.vervloesem.eu/temp/9-gtk+12.err
23:53 < mpp> i also had that one
23:53 < mpp> with gtk+12
23:54 < mpp> did you interrupt a build process with ctrl+c ?
23:59 < koan> no
23:59 < mpp> take a look at dmesg
23:59 < mpp> maybe some bad paging crash due to gcc on amd
--- Log closed Thu Oct 30 00:00:54 2008
01:12 -!- freakz [n=freakz@189-92-98-24.3g.claro.net.br] has joined #t2
01:13 < freakz> how to force an update on "Automatic update avoided"
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09:58 < mtr> moin
09:59 < rxr> moin mtr
09:59 [Users #t2]
09:59 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ gw ] [ mpp ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX]
09:59 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ koan] [ mtr ] [ soopurman]
09:59 [ CIA-13 ] [ felanha] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stealth ]
09:59 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
09:59 < rxr> hi Stealth gw
09:59 < rxr> freakz: with -force
10:00 < gw> hi all
10:27 < mpp> moinsen
11:24 -!- andrew81 [n=andrewt@60-234-224-61.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #t2
11:26 < andrew81> has anyone there given grsecurity a whirl when using trunk? i get patches failing during the linux-headers stage, and presumably would at the kernel compilation stage.
11:26 < CIA-13> rene * r31055 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (1.10 -> 1.11)
11:26 < CIA-13> rene * r31056 /trunk/package/filesystem/cdrkit/cdrkit.desc: * updated cdrkit (1.1.8 -> 1.1.9)
11:26 < CIA-13> rene * r31054 /trunk/scripts/Download:
11:26 < CIA-13> * fixed scripts/Dowload -all to correctly featch all version
11:26 < CIA-13> controlled checkouts (CVS, SVN, ...), again
11:26 < rxr> andrew81: I guess it's not so used, and the support might be bittorren a little
11:27 < mpp> no grsec in use - sorry
11:27 < andrew81> i figured that much, i'll first establish why my coworker wants grsecurity before i delve into it deeper.
11:30 < andrew81> i presume that one cannot use a subversion repository as a source for "source code" for a package?
11:31 -!- soopurman [n=soopurma@nat-vlan0200.sat4.rackspace.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
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11:40 < rxr> andrew81: one can
11:45 < rxr> andrew81: grep '\[D\].*svn' package/*/*/*.desc
11:45 [Users #t2]
11:45 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-13] [ felanha] [ LMJ] [ Ragnarin ] [ Stealth]
11:45 [ andrew81] [ Cyda ] [ gw ] [ mpp] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
11:45 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ koan ] [ mtr] [ soopurman]
11:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
11:46 < andrew81> awesome, just read the source. this t2 framework is just what i was after
11:50 < rxr> you're welcome
11:52 -!- andrew81 [n=andrewt@60-234-224-61.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has left #t2 []
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15:28 < mtr> rxr: qemu svn snapshot looks really fine, though I cannot test all the targets
15:29 < mtr> builds without all the gcc4 patches, supports system targets i386, x86_64, arm, mips/el, sh4, cris
15:29 < rxr> mtr: yes, I use Qemu SVN regularly
15:29 < rxr> yeah - and adds ppc64 host support
15:30 < mtr> what do you think about updating to svn?
15:30 < rxr> hope there is a release in the next weeks :-)?
15:30 < rxr> I usually use kvm anyway, maybe it's cleaner to leave qemu for the next release and rather get a more integrated and updated kvm packages .-)
15:31 * mtr leaving a qemu-dev package lingering around ...
15:31 < rxr> hehe, okok, update qemu :-)
15:34 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@217.70.71.152] has joined #t2
15:35 < mtr> ;-)
15:35 < mtr> nice thing with qemu is the multi-architecture support, I often use mipsel and sh4 targets
15:35 < mtr> or does kvm support this as well?
15:36 < rxr> in theory yes, but only x86 (and in theory ia64/ppc) are hardware accelerated
15:36 < mtr> afaik kvm is architecture dependent x86/x86_64, right?
15:36 < rxr> the good thing is kvm is blazingly fast on cpus with hardware virtualization
15:36 < rxr> I run even OSX and Windows in it ...
15:37 < rxr> but then I'm evil
15:37 < mtr> :)
15:37 < rxr> but the kvm glue is gradually merged back into qemu, now
15:37 < rxr> so in the future qemu will transparently be accelerated by either old-style kqemu, or new-style kvm
15:38 < mtr> yes, I've read some post on the qemu-dev list about kvm merge
15:39 < rxr> actually I run some heavily patched kvm for the OS X virtualization ...
15:48 < CIA-13> aldas * r31057 /trunk/package/multimedia/libzvbi/libzvbi.desc: * updated libzvbi (0.2.32 -> 0.2.33)
16:29 < mpp> hey rxr - do you know how to get svn::core running with git inside t2
16:29 < mpp> there is a module callend SVN::Core.pm missing
16:29 < mpp> maybe you have a hint for me
16:43 < rxr> what do you try to use?
16:44 < rxr> I recently noticed that subversion also installs the python modules in a directory not found by python by default
16:44 < rxr> if you mean the svn Perl bindings they might be likewise "miss-installed"
16:59 < mpp> yes the svn perl bindings
16:59 < mpp> i was trying to import a svn repo into git
17:06 < rxr> ic
17:07 < rxr> as I wrote I noticed (for svn to mercurial conversion) that the python bindings are also not installed where they belong too
17:07 < rxr> guess we have to fix both install locations
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18:05 < mpp> what packages are those ?
18:05 < mpp> No package 'glib-2.0' found
18:05 < mpp> No package 'gthread-2.0' found
18:05 < mpp> i'm not quite sure about them
18:05 < mpp> help welcome
18:08 < koan> no output in ./scripts/Find-Pkg gthread?
18:09 < mpp> nope
18:09 < mpp> the first one seems to be gnome/glib
18:10 < mpp> but the second is puzzling me
18:10 < koan> which package are you building?
18:12 < mtr> gthread is included in glib
18:12 < mpp> k thanx mtr
18:12 < mpp> koan: i needed those for sshfs
18:13 < mtr> this refers to pkg-config ".pc" files which are not found
18:13 < mtr> if you add glib you'll have gthread as well
18:43 < rxr> glib
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22:06 [Users #t2]
22:06 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ felanha] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ soopurman]
22:06 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ gw ] [ mpp ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stealth ]
22:06 [ CIA-13 ] [ DuckFault] [ koan ] [ mqueiros] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
22:06 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
22:10 -!- gw [n=gw@2001:44b8:62:7f0:21b:63ff:fe01:f18d] has left #t2 ["Leaving"]
22:53 < koan> I'm reading the T2 handbook, how's it going with the Minix port?
23:40 < koan> hm building gtk+12 fails with a lot of messages "Created file outside allowed top-level dir"
23:40 < koan> http://www.vervloesem.eu/temp/9-gtk+12.err
23:53 < mpp> i also had that one
23:53 < mpp> with gtk+12
23:54 < mpp> did you interrupt a build process with ctrl+c ?
23:59 < koan> no
23:59 < mpp> take a look at dmesg
23:59 < mpp> maybe some bad paging crash due to gcc on amd
--- Log closed Thu Oct 30 00:00:54 2008