T2 IRC Log: 2008-11-10

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--- Log opened Mon Nov 10 00:00:30 2008
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08:44 < rxr> mtr: how broken?
08:44 < rxr> mpp: how broken?
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12:57 < mpp> moinmoin
13:06 < koan> rxr: did you by any chance attend FOSDEM in Brussels one of the last years?
13:07 < mpp> hey koan
13:08 < koan> hi mpp
13:08 < mpp> im just doing a fresh checkout + build of rescue an 10-minimal
13:09 < mpp> see if things are back to normal
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13:23 < nick21> hello
13:24 < mpp> hey nick21
13:25 < rxr> koan: nope, I normally do not have any free time during the FOSDEM timeslots
13:26 < koan> rxr: a pity, otherwise I'd buy you a beer the next time :-)
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13:27 < mpp> hey rxr
13:27 < mpp> ncurses is building fine now
13:28 < mpp> glibc with rescue target is building as we speak
13:28 < michael-i> Just wondering if anyone is actively building blackfin targets? I'm encountering errors when using the default embedded target: http://pastebin.ca/1250231
13:28 < michael-i> I'm building from svn trunk on 7.0rc2
13:30 < rxr> yes we do
13:32 < rxr> hm - strange linux-header patch does not apply
13:32 < michael-i> Could you recommend a known working configuration? Rescue CD?
13:32 < rxr> your setup should be find
13:32 < rxr> looks like some blackfin specificy is out-of-sync in trunk
13:32 < michael-i> ok
13:32 < rxr> though I just recently test-build a rather huge set on blackfin...
13:32 < mpp> target/rescue glibc built successfull - yeahh
13:33 < mpp> :-)
13:33 < rxr> mpp: i wire a Os/O2 translation to glibc
13:33 < rxr> the error is too strange to track in the glibc sources quickly
13:33 < mpp> -O2 Option did the trick
13:33 < rxr> ah - ok
13:33 < mpp> thats oky
13:33 < rxr> well - it builds if you sleect size now as well
13:33 < mpp> digging with google
13:33 < michael-i> rxr: let me know if I can provide more information, I'm glad to go diffing for it
13:33 < michael-i> s/diffing/digging
13:33 < rxr> just htat glibc is then falling back to speed O2 due the strange inlining issue
13:34 < mpp> it is a prob with glibc-2.7 that many are encoutering
13:34 < rxr> michael-i: just look at the patcht that fail to apply in your error-log
13:34 < rxr> should be possible to see quite quickly what's going wrong
13:34 < rxr> e.g. version mismatch old patch etc.
13:37 < rxr> hm - it build for me
13:37 < rxr> maybe it's a regression with changed/fixed architecture overlays recently
13:37 < rxr> I give a test build a try on my reference tester also to take a look
13:40 < mpp> http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebui.sourcelabs.com%2Fapi%2FFilter_project%25253Aglibc%2FTag_software%25253Aglibc-2.7&ei=DCsYSbm0LIie1wbn6JTmCg&usg=AFQjCNHcUtEc33pZFtpvQbEu3QVOKCS1rQ&sig2=MR4rhE-tFi3G8ggMEz6XIw
13:40 < rxr> I guess you can savely remove the scsi patch in the blackfin dir
13:40 < rxr> I think with a typo in the older t2 scripts the patch was just not applied at all :-)
13:40 < mpp> as pointed out the -Os seems buggy regarding inline option
13:40 < michael-i> ok, rxr. thanks for the quick feedback on that
13:40 < mpp> felix von leitener had this issue already back in 2007
13:41 < rxr> yes, and the suse guy just said, build with default opts ...
13:41 < rxr> I google the thing for some minutes already
13:41 < mpp> it is specifix to x64 arch seems
13:41 < mpp> my rescue targets where all x64
13:41 < rxr> I think it always failed here with Os
13:42 < mpp> but it just occured since t2 update glibc -> 2.7
13:42 < mpp> on 2.6 everything went fine
13:42 < rxr> yes, it's a new glibc bug
13:42 < mpp> i build rescue regularly
13:42 < rxr> yes, it the past it just worked
13:42 < rxr> it's a Os regression with glibc-2.7
13:43 < mpp> i mean we can leave the Os witch and i'll apply a patch to my target
13:43 < rxr> which patch ?
13:43 < mpp> is this option -O2 also used for stage 5 building of glibc ?
13:43 < rxr> the optimization option is used for _everything_
13:44 < mpp> ahhh..
13:44 < mpp> thats somewhat bad ...
13:44 < rxr> in t2 trunk:HEAD I already workarounded glibc by translating Os to O2 in the glibc.conf
13:44 < rxr> what is bad ?
13:44 < mpp> afaikt the glibc was the one that always core- dumped in the conftest
13:45 < rxr> glibc was the one that "might" have had a amd64 optimization bug
13:45 < mpp> i mean -O2 is okay for speed ..
13:45 < mpp> id def had
13:45 < mpp> i did 2 consecutive builds now with my targets
13:45 < rxr> if would be great if you could check if the glibc-2.7 update fixed the "random/stray" segfaults with amd64 optimization
13:45 < mpp> no more dump from glibc
13:45 < rxr> with amd64 optimization?
13:45 < mpp> ill do so
13:45 < mpp> nope even without
13:46 < rxr> because generic and core2 did not had this issue on my side
13:46 < mpp> ill have host target rebuilt for amd64 and report back
13:48 < mpp> again thanx for the large effort rxr
13:48 < mpp> :-)
13:48 < rxr> you're welcome :-)
13:49 < rxr> hm - strange blackfind just builds here
13:52 < michael-i> rxr, after removing the scsi patch, I have a newly rejected patch to the kernel's fs/Makefile (http://pastebin.ca/1250242)
13:53 < michael-i> There is a different test for ramfs being performed which causes it to fail
13:55 < rxr> ah - ok - it's patching squashfs in
13:56 < rxr> hm - on the other hand so is it doing on my side
13:56 < michael-i> perhaps my default config has been messed up?
13:57 < rxr> the major difference is that I do not build embedded, but the generic target (that is as much as possible in default testting) maybe that makes a difference in some subtle detail
13:57 < michael-i> I'll give generic a try
13:57 < rxr> and I test if our mainline linux-header is new enough to have all blackfin bits, now
14:00 < michael-i> generic fails identically
14:00 < michael-i> I have to go for a bit...be back later
14:09 < rxr> strange thing
14:09 < rxr> really
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14:51 < mpp> fyi http://pastebin.com/m265a01d2 always occurs on stage 2 gcc
15:19 < michael-i> back
15:20 < mpp> hey michael-i
15:32 < michael-i> I'm testing the same build using power pc as architecture out of curiosity and getting much further.
15:33 < rxr> michael-i: I removed the blackfind custom linux-header in trunk already
15:33 < rxr> michael-i: can you svn up and reset with blackfin
15:34 < michael-i> i saw the commit message. will do asap, rxr
15:38 < CIA-4> rene * r31198 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.conf: * improved firefox to build with older, non-TLS/NPTL glibc's
15:38 < rxr> though still strange that you get different errors than I
15:40 < CIA-4> rene * r31199 /trunk/package/base/glibc/glibc.conf: * fixed glibc-2.7 to build with size optimization, by enforcing O2, for now
15:42 < CIA-4> rene * r31200 /trunk/package/base/glibc/x86_64-string.patch.disabled: * removed already disabled glibc/x86_64 string operation optimization patch
15:45 < CIA-4> rene * r31201 /trunk/architecture/blackfin/package/linux-header/:
15:46 < CIA-4> * removed blackfin specific linux-header overlay, all user-space
15:46 < CIA-4> required defines apparently exposed by the current mainline
15:46 < CIA-4> linux-header
15:59 < michael-i> rxr, with a fresh checkout of svn in a new directory everything's working (so far I'm to base/flex without any errors)
16:17 < mpp> hey rxr
16:18 < mpp> did some further build and confirm that gcc does segfault conftest all the time
16:18 < mpp> no matter what stage
16:18 < mpp> this has been from the beggining
16:18 < mpp> is it worth to track down this error ?
16:20 < rxr> in theory yes, but I'll not have the extra time for it
16:20 < rxr> it only happens with amd64 optimizations, right?
16:20 < rxr> generic and core2 do work ?
16:27 < michael-i> my blackfin build now made it to base/binutils: error-log + configure.rej (http://pastebin.ca/1250343)
16:27 < rxr> interesting
16:28 < michael-i> I should always be checking "this is a cross-compile" right?
16:28 < rxr> probably the same problem as the linux-header before, somehow patches are handled differents on my and your system
16:28 < michael-i> hmm
16:28 < rxr> yes, but it will not make a different for this error
16:28 < rxr> you are sure you are on trunk:HEAD ?
16:28 < michael-i> "At revision 31201"
16:29 < michael-i> but this is a quad-proc machine...perhaps somethings aren't resource safe?
16:29 < rxr> (our man regression tester is an 8way for a year now)
16:30 < rxr> s/man/main/
16:30 < michael-i> ok, so no ;)
16:31 < michael-i> should I update my t2-host system?
16:31 < rxr> no
16:31 < rxr> this should not have anything todo with the host environment
16:31 < rxr> and as you can reproduce it right now I rather like to see it fixed than hitting the next person giving it a try .-)
16:32 < michael-i> just let me know what you need, I'm here for another 90 minutes and am very willing to help
16:32 < rxr> the patch in question just applies here:
16:32 < rxr> Apply patch /mnt/builder/t2-trunk-cross/architecture/blackfin/package/binutils/texinfo-version.patch ...
16:32 < rxr> patching file configure
16:32 < rxr> Hunk #1 succeeded at 3679 (offset -2513 lines).
16:33 < rxr> hm - ok - maybe it's the host systems patch and mine is more relaxed than yours=
16:33 < rxr> ?
16:33 < rxr> which patch version do you have ?
16:34 < michael-i> 2.5.4
16:34 < rxr> hm - ok /me too
16:34 < rxr> mine -q patch ?
16:34 < rxr> patch 2.5.4 7.0-trunk
16:34 < michael-i> patch 2.5.4 7.0-stable
16:35 < rxr> admitedly the offset of -2513 lines is rather huge
16:35 < michael-i> a bit
16:35 < rxr> maybe a less fuzzy patch really is the case
16:35 < rxr> ok - I break my build by mangling my patch and then we md5sum the file that should get patched
16:36 < rxr> which stage was this binutils build? 0- 1- ?
16:36 < michael-i> 0? (== 16:06:39 =[0]=> Building base/binutils [2.17-bfin-r1613 8.0-trunk].)
16:37 < rxr> 0, yes
16:38 < rxr> ah - have to rebuild again, my auto-builder has "always clean failed source trees enabled" ...
16:44 < rxr> cd src.binutils.*
16:44 < rxr> binutils-2.17# md5sum configure
16:44 < rxr> cf9a54e3ac26fde457711cebad4dc17b configure
16:45 < michael-i> fc36abaa7be1095f24519b4b1c398db4 configure
16:45 < rxr> hm
16:46 < rxr> can you upload / send me your configure ?
16:46 < rxr> I want to try to apply the patch with my patch program
16:48 < michael-i> working on it, I'll send via e-mail if that's ok?
16:48 < rxr> yep
16:48 < rxr> I'll also upload my working log
16:48 < rxr> maybe attach your full log as well so we can both diff / scroll over it
16:49 < michael-i> which log exactly?
16:49 < rxr> your full 0-binutils
16:49 < rxr> more comfortable and bit exact via email than pulling it out of the pastebin
16:52 < michael-i> on their way
16:53 < rxr> btw. you could probably also remove the offending patch it's only important if you have an older texinfo or what it was
16:53 < rxr> but fixing this would be nice (tm)
16:54 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/blackfin-uclibc-0-binutils.log
16:54 < michael-i> the less workarounds needed for other people the better
16:55 < rxr> yep
16:55 < michael-i> you're using uclibc here and I'm not
16:56 < rxr> are you sure? I think blackfin will only build with uclibc
16:56 < rxr> can you force t2 in using something else for bfin ?
16:57 < michael-i> I'm just looking at both of our "gcc is /....." lines
16:57 < michael-i> mine says "default-8.0-trunk-generic-blackfin-bf533-cross" and yours is "blackfin-uclibc-cross-8.0-trunk-generic-blackfin-bf533-cross"
16:58 < rxr> ok - that is ust my config name - the libc is not stored in the uuid
16:58 < michael-i> always learning something new...
16:59 < mpp> hey rxr - i have an updated package for git 1.6.0.3 send to the mailing list it's tested - it has a few new deps - conf is filled up to build proper and docs / man /html are now on
16:59 < mpp> would be great if you could push it to svn
16:59 < mpp> thnx
17:02 < rxr> take a look in a second
17:02 < mpp> k
17:02 < rxr> michael-i: very strange when I diff the logs, your's and mine, the patches are applied in the same order etc. and then the final textinfo-version.patch is failing
17:03 < michael-i> rxr, can I add a flag to patch to give you better info?
17:03 < rxr> I rediff that patch - maybe that helps by not making the fuzz too big
17:03 < rxr> not really, not that I can think of something
17:06 < michael-i> i can test that before you commit it if you like
17:07 < rxr> I think I
17:07 < rxr> 'll just commit it in a sec, less fuzzy patch should not hurt :-)
17:07 < michael-i> gotcha
17:07 < rxr> really strange thing, in 15y of Unix hacking I never experienced something like this
17:08 < michael-i> well I'm glad it wasn't a dumb question then!
17:12 < rxr> it's in
17:12 < CIA-4> rene * r31202 /trunk/architecture/blackfin/package/binutils/texinfo-version.patch:
17:12 < CIA-4> * rediffed binutils/texinfo-version.patch, to not have a fuzz
17:12 < CIA-4> of -2513 lines, and hopefully apply more often
17:14 < michael-i> you're not going to like this: !> Hunk #1 FAILED at 3679
17:15 < rxr> pff, where the heck is this coming from?!?!?!?
17:16 < michael-i> i did: svn co; ./scripts/Clean; ./scripts/Build-Target. Is there something more to be done before retrying the build
17:16 < michael-i> err.. svn up actually
17:19 < michael-i> it looks like configure already has this patch applied
17:25 < michael-i> when I look at my configure, 3682 already reflects the updated regex, rxr
17:25 < CIA-4> rene * r31190 /trunk/package/base/pciutils/pciutils.desc: * updated pciutils (3.0.2 -> 3.0.3)
17:26 < CIA-4> rene * r31191 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * updated poppler (0.10.0 -> 0.10.1)
17:26 < CIA-4> rene * r31196 /trunk/package/perl/perl-mp3-info/perl-mp3-info.desc: * updated perl-mp3-info (1.23 -> 1.24)
17:26 < CIA-4> rene * r31195 /trunk/package/perl/perl-anyevent/perl-anyevent.desc: * updated perl-anyevent (4.31 -> 4.32)
17:26 < CIA-4> rene * r31193 /trunk/package/perl/perl-date-time/perl-date-time.desc: * updated perl-date-time (0.4305 -> 0.4401)
17:26 < CIA-4> rene * r31194 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libwww/perl-libwww.desc: * updated perl-libwww (5.819 -> 5.820)
17:26 < rxr> michael-i: hm
17:26 < CIA-4> rene * r31192 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/iso-codes.desc: * updated iso-codes (3.3 -> 3.4)
17:27 < CIA-4> rene * r31197 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.6.0.3 -> 1.6.0.4)
17:29 < rxr> mpp: svn diff of the git files would have been a dream :-)
17:30 < mpp> ahm. oky
17:30 < mpp> sorry
17:30 < rxr> but I'll still get it in ...
17:31 < mpp> noted for the feature
17:31 < mpp> :-)
17:34 < mpp> looks like svn.exactocode is on 31202
17:34 < mpp> but rxr pushed 31197
17:34 < mpp> ???
17:35 < mpp> am i missing something ...
17:36 < rxr> this CIA thing is lagging
17:37 < rxr> those commits are from the morning
17:38 < mpp> puhh...
17:43 < mpp> damnit xmlto dep for git slipped...
17:43 < mpp> needs to be in git.cache
17:43 < mpp> hold on the git package rxr
17:44 < mpp> i'll have to resync it with my local repo
17:44 < mpp> sorry
17:44 < mpp> ill provide an apropriate diff later on
17:46 < rxr> I could test build and add it
17:46 < rxr> had to kick some VM anyway ...
17:47 < mpp> im on it
17:47 < mpp> sorry for the mess
17:47 < mpp> im rebuilding the synced repo now
17:48 < rxr> hm - indeed
17:48 < mpp> if it's flawless i'll have it diffed and tared to the ml
17:48 < rxr> michael-i: I wiped my tarball and let svn repull the sources, now the patch does no longer apply
17:48 < michael-i> rxr, glad to hear it's not working...
17:49 < michael-i> I have to go in about 10 minutes, would you like any more info?
17:49 < rxr> ok - and it looks the "magicaly fixed binutils-bfin" package is on our mirror
17:49 < rxr> so we just wipe the patch and go
17:50 < michael-i> good deal
17:53 < rxr> mpp: var_append var ' ' 'doc, ...' is better
17:54 < rxr> though not too important for git, but for other packages targets could set other stuff you would voerwrite
17:54 < rxr> also overwriting makeinstopt probably breaks cross building as it at least also wips DESTDIR
17:54 < rxr> I fixed that and commit after a test build
17:54 < rxr> load average: 12.06, 6.14, 2.59
17:55 < mpp> but the docs will not get build otherwise
17:56 < mpp> e.g git help diff
17:56 < rxr> I mean this cleaned changes:
17:56 < rxr> +var_append makeopt ' ' 'all doc info'
17:56 < rxr> +var_append makeinstopt ' ' 'install-doc install-info install-html'
17:56 < mpp> fails on the origin .conf
17:56 < rxr> this should result in your intended behaviour without wiping pre-set variables
17:56 < mpp> i dont't get it probably
17:57 < rxr> you had makeopt="" there
17:57 < mpp> ah. okay
17:57 < rxr> this resets the whole makeopt, usually, especially during cross builds there is a whole lot already set in it
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17:57 < rxr> especially makeinstopt which carrie DESTDIR=$root
17:57 < mpp> so i guess you changed allready on your side :-)
17:58 < mpp> i was not aware of the difference
17:58 < rxr> yep, that's why I teach you advanced packaging topics to save my time/work in the future :-)
17:58 < mpp> the updated cache file is missing the xmlto as dep
17:58 < mpp> ill have to reread
17:59 < CIA-4> rene * r31203 /trunk/architecture/blackfin/package/binutils/texinfo-version.patch:
17:59 < CIA-4> * removed blackfin/.../binutils/texinfo-version.patch, the fixed configure
17:59 < CIA-4> already made it into the file on the t2 mirrors (?!?!?)
18:04 < rxr> hm - git breaks here:
18:04 < rxr> Can't locate Dpkg.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0/i686-t2-linux-gnu /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.1
18:04 < rxr> 0.0/i686-t2-linux-gnu /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0 /opt/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/i686-t2-linux-gnu /opt/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.
18:04 < rxr> 10.0 /opt/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /usr/sbin/install-info line 8.
18:04 < rxr> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/install-info line 8.
18:04 < rxr> Can't locate Dpkg.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0/i686-t2-linux-gnu /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.1
18:04 < rxr> 0.0/i686-t2-linux-gnu /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0 /opt/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/i686-t2-linux-gnu /opt/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.
18:04 < rxr> 10.0 /opt/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /usr/sbin/install-info line 8.
18:04 < rxr> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/install-info line 8.
18:04 < rxr> make[1]: *** [install-info] Error 2
18:06 < mpp> hm...
18:06 < mpp> i don't have this on my site
18:06 < mpp> i also posted an updated cache file
18:07 < mpp> it needs xslt asciidoc
18:07 < mpp> and xmlto
18:15 < CIA-4> rene * r31205 /trunk/package/base/strace/ (arch-0-avr32.patch strace.desc):
18:15 < CIA-4> Adam Stirk :
18:15 < CIA-4> * updated strace (4.5.17 -> 4.5.18)
18:17 < CIA-4> rene * r31206 /trunk/package/network/ddclient/ddclient.init:
18:17 < CIA-4> Adam Stirk :
18:17 < CIA-4> * added ddclient.init script
18:22 < CIA-4> rene * r31207 /trunk/package/multimedia/libsimage/ (5 files):
18:22 < CIA-4> Adam Stirk :
18:22 < CIA-4> * added libsimage (1.6.1) - The simage Library
18:26 < CIA-4> rene * r31208 /trunk/package/audio/libmpcdec/ (. libmpcdec.cache libmpcdec.desc):
18:26 < CIA-4> Adam Stirk :
18:26 < CIA-4> * added libmpcdec (v1.2.6) - Musepack is an audio compression format with a strong emphasis on high quality
18:29 < rxr> http://science.slashdot.org/science/08/11/09/1558241.shtml
18:52 < CIA-4> rene * r31209 /trunk/package/multimedia/libsimage/libsimage.desc: * marked libsimage to cross build
18:54 < mpp> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/11/06/redhat-amd-migrate-vms-across
19:21 < rxr> hm - I do this for months, nothing new, probably KVM anyway
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20:32 < tri> moin
20:39 < rxr> hi tri
20:39 < tri> hi
20:40 < tri> rxr: do you have ever build v4l-dvb?
20:40 < rxr> the kernel module ?
20:45 < tri> the source from linuxtv.org
20:46 < tri> how is the process - most of the stuff is already in the main kernel, right?
20:46 < rxr> I do not know what exactly you mean .-)
20:46 < rxr> all stuff I ever build lives in form of t2 packages :-)
20:46 < rxr> if it's not in t2 I did not build it, or it was useless :-)
20:52 < rxr> ok - gotta go - cu
20:56 < tri> :-)
20:56 < tri> cu
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