--- Log opened Sat Nov 22 00:00:43 2008 00:03 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 00:48 -!- d_oilen [n=iulian@89.18.29.87] has joined #t2 00:48 < d_oilen> hello 00:49 < d_oilen> can somebody help with autoconf problem in 7.0-rc2? 01:01 < d_oilen> nobody? 01:02 < d_oilen> so it appears as far as i read that perl in T2-7.0rc2 ISO for i486 is incomplete. how to fix tat ? 01:03 < d_oilen> a normal perl source recompilation does not work 01:13 -!- d_oilen [n=iulian@89.18.29.87] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:04 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:32 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 03:34 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Client Quit] 03:45 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 04:28 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:38 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 07:07 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:58 -!- mpp [n=mpp@i53877AC5.versanet.de] has joined #t2 11:47 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has joined #t2 11:47 < Baldzius> moin 11:49 < mpp> moinsen 11:49 < Baldzius> hey mpp 11:51 < mpp> whats up ? 12:07 < Baldzius> nothing major, working :) 12:13 < mpp> k 12:19 < rxr> moin 12:20 < rxr> hm - interesting t-mobile appears to have a lower 3G latency (even on some crappy Sony m600i as "modem") than o2 12:20 < rxr> always thought the m600i proxy modem latency is that bad 12:20 < rxr> well - it's bad, just that o2 adds a little more to it ... 12:21 < rxr> hi all hi Baldzius and mpp 12:21 < rxr> oh - some more people on the t2 page, 137, now 12:21 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ 12:21 < Baldzius> hi rxr 12:21 < mpp> moinmoin 12:21 < mpp> schnee in gütersloh :-) 12:22 < rxr> in berlin not so much, had more snow yesterday 12:22 < mpp> jingle bell jingle bell ... 12:22 < mpp> :-) 12:23 < rxr> :_) 12:25 < CIA-4> mtr * r31326 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/uclibc.desc: * updated uclibc (0.9.30-rc3 -> 0.9.30) 12:25 < CIA-4> mtr * r31325 /trunk/package/lua/luasql/luasql.conf: * improved luasql to build all db backends available 12:26 < CIA-4> rene * r31327 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/nvidia.desc: 12:26 < CIA-4> * re-un-commented nvidia aRchitecture tag, (accidently?) commented 12:26 < CIA-4> out in r29746 12:26 < rxr> mtr: you're in Lua, now ? 12:27 < mtr> hi rxr 12:27 < mpp> hey rxr - did the dl2 + dl3 offloaded the dl server somehow ? 12:27 < mpp> just curious 12:27 < rxr> I think so 12:28 < rxr> though I noticed just some days ago that the source downloads in Germany / EU still go very much to dl. ... 12:28 < rxr> how much traffic do you get ? 12:28 < mpp> i dunno to be hones 12:28 < mpp> what source downloads ? 12:29 < rxr> our source mirroring 12:29 < mpp> should i mirror the source dirs too 12:29 < mpp> oops 12:29 < mpp> forgot totally 12:29 < mpp> i'll have them synced asap 12:29 < mtr> rxr: I noticed that luasql only builds a single db backend, and doesn't check if other db are available 12:29 < rxr> mtr: have you neough HD space ? 12:30 < rxr> mpp: do you have enough hd space ? 12:30 < rxr> mpp: you use lua ß 12:30 < mpp> lua nope 12:30 < mpp> how much is the source tree ? 12:30 < rxr> err 12:30 < rxr> mtr: even :-) 12:31 < rxr> 3.8G 2.1 12:31 < rxr> 5.3G 6.0 12:31 < rxr> 6.0G 7.0 12:31 < rxr> 12G 8.0 12:31 < rxr> 27G total 12:32 < mpp> hm... okay 12:32 < mpp> is this this the mirror directory ? 12:32 < rxr> yes 12:32 < mpp> k 12:32 < mpp> i would be mirroring the 7.0 and 8.0 12:32 < rxr> but it would be best if we could set it up so that I push it using ssh+rsync as tot he other mirrors 12:33 < mpp> i'll have them synced first 12:33 < mpp> and report back when initial mirroring is done 12:33 < rxr> ok 12:35 < rxr> so - cu later 12:35 < mpp> which one of the existing mirrors is the fastest ? 12:35 < rxr> happy weekend 12:35 < mpp> dito 12:35 < rxr> ./scripts/Download -mirror auto 12:35 < rxr> INFO: Auto-detecting best mirror ... 12:35 < mpp> k 12:35 < mpp> bye 12:35 < rxr> mirror.gdnsinc.com (HTTP)> ... ok 20813.000 B/s 12:36 < rxr> from my 3G point of view :-) 12:36 < mtr> rxr: lua ss? 12:36 < rxr> (which would be faster if not the aging m600i would be the "modem") 12:37 < rxr> mtr: just wanted to know if you use Lua, these days ? 12:37 < mtr> no, not really, the Lua book still sits unread in my shelf ... 12:38 < rxr> ah :-( 12:38 < rxr> so - have a nice weekend to all of you 12:38 < rxr> cu 12:47 < mtr> thanks, the same to you 12:47 < mtr> cu 12:53 < CIA-4> mtr * r31328 /trunk/package/develop/libserial/libserial.conf: * fixed libserial build without python/sip 12:58 -!- mpp_ [n=mpp@i5387755D.versanet.de] has joined #t2 13:02 -!- mpp_ [n=mpp@i5387755D.versanet.de] has quit [Client Quit] 13:13 -!- mpp [n=mpp@i53877AC5.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:05 -!- mpp [n=mpp@i5387755D.versanet.de] has joined #t2 14:54 < CIA-4> rene * r31329 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-block.conf.m4: 14:54 < CIA-4> * newer kernel no longser select io schedulers by default, 14:54 < CIA-4> select them explicitly 14:56 < CIA-4> rene * r31330 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/kernel.conf.m4: 14:56 < CIA-4> * newer kernel no longer select I2C_POWERPC support by default, 14:56 < CIA-4> select it to re-enable THERM-al options for fan control 14:56 < CIA-4> * don't select the WINDFARM, although it's buildable it's so far 14:56 < CIA-4> only in use for PowerPC64 15:43 -!- bovnet [n=steve@87-194-185-180.bethere.co.uk] has joined #t2 15:44 < bovnet> anyone here 15:47 < mpp> yep 15:50 < bovnet> just a quick Q 15:51 < bovnet> in the pkgsel config X includes what does the O do ? 15:53 < mpp> id deselects it 15:53 < bovnet> thats what i imagined 15:53 < bovnet> thanks 15:54 < mpp> np 17:21 -!- mpp [n=mpp@i5387755D.versanet.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092510]"] 18:24 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:44 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 18:45 < koan> attr doesn't build here in trunk 18:45 < koan> looks like a conflict between attr and man-pages 18:45 < koan> btw rxr I've successfully installed your T2 iso on my G5, thanks! 18:46 < koan> I'm now building vim and some other essential tools :-) 18:46 < koan> and trying to configure X for my dual head setup 18:46 < koan> that seems to change with every release of X.Org 18:47 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 18:50 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:56 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 19:03 < rxr> koan: yeah 19:03 < CIA-4> rene * r31331 /trunk/package/graphic/gimp/gimp.desc: * updated gimp (2.6.2 -> 2.6.3) 19:03 < CIA-4> rene * r31332 /trunk/package/develop/ksplice/ksplice.desc: * updated ksplice (0.9.3 -> 0.9.4) 19:03 < CIA-4> rene * r31333 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.6.32 -> 0.6.33) 19:07 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:08 [Users #t2] 19:08 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-4] [ dsoul] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX] 19:08 [ bovnet ] [ Cyda ] [ koan ] [ mtr] [ Stealth] 19:08 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 19:35 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 20:17 < koan> hm I can't make anything of this build error: http://vervloesem.eu/temp/9-lididl.err 22:14 -!- d_oilen [n=iulian@89.18.29.87] has joined #t2 22:14 < d_oilen> hello 22:16 < d_oilen> i solved the problem with autoconf not building. i wanted to post my findings but ... 22:17 < d_oilen> i could not do that 22:17 < d_oilen> now i have my own t2 22:17 < d_oilen> :) 22:26 < rxr> hi 22:27 < rxr> d_oilen: welcome 22:27 [Users #t2] 22:27 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ koan] [ rxr ] [ wtracy] 22:27 [ bovnet ] [ d_oilen] [ LMJ ] [ Stealth] 22:27 [ CIA-4 ] [ dsoul ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 22:27 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 22:27 < d_oilen> tnx 22:29 < d_oilen> how can i post my findings about incomplete perl and autoconf problems in t2-7.0-rc2? 22:29 < d_oilen> i tried subscribing to mail list but i was ranked 6.5 as spammer :)) 22:29 < d_oilen> at least my server was ... 22:35 < CIA-4> rene * r31334 /trunk/package/mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.desc: * updated thunderbird (2.0.0.17 -> 2.0.0.18) 22:39 < CIA-4> rene * r31335 /trunk/package/www/dillo/ (dillo.cache dillo.desc fltk2.patch): * updated dillo (0.8.6 -> 2.0) 22:39 < rxr> mybe just drop the notes here 22:39 < rxr> or write me to my gmail address rene . rebe @ gmail . com 22:40 < rxr> and I'll post it 22:45 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:58 < d_oilen> k 22:58 < d_oilen> i'll compile it and send it to you 23:00 < d_oilen> but normally you should update to rc3 because the usage of t2 is compromised without perl packages 23:16 < d_oilen> ok 23:16 < d_oilen> now 23:16 < d_oilen> basically there are three issues with t2 7.0-rc2 23:17 < d_oilen> 1. perl is incompletye in the minimal-486.iso image 23:17 < d_oilen> incomplete 23:18 < d_oilen> basically the Build-Target will stop at building autoconf due to the missing of Carp.pm 23:18 < d_oilen> but htere are also several other *.pm files missing in the default installation 23:19 < d_oilen> what i did is i downloaded perl from cpan and added by hand all the missing files 23:20 < d_oilen> 2. rsync will not build because the t2 7.0-rc2 will look for a version 2-x and mirror and the default url has 3.0x or something 23:21 < d_oilen> you should either fix with 3.0 in rc3 or add at the package description in the url after www.samba.org/ftp/rsync/ the src 23:21 < d_oilen> so the final url will look like this 23:21 < d_oilen> www.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/ 23:22 < d_oilen> 3. due to yet unknown reasons the final iso is generated with two tracks T0 with 0 bytes length anf T1 with the actual image of the distribution i built 23:23 < d_oilen> so the default command cdrecord -speed=8 /dev/cdrom mydist-7.0-rc2.iso will burn a wrong disk 23:24 < d_oilen> curiously enough i was able to transfer the image and burn it corecly on a win32 machine with a cd burner software 23:25 < d_oilen> as a miscellanous issue mc is not building corecly on Emerge-pkg meaning that it almost builds it and installs a part of it but the result of the build is an error 23:26 < d_oilen> i will try to put all of these in a small howto for newbies ( like me) and then i will give it to you to post it onto the site 23:26 < d_oilen> thank you anyway for all the T2 big effort 23:27 < d_oilen> i intend to use it in my embedded x86 devices so i will try to post howto's as i go along ( if i am allowed of course) 23:57 < d_oilen> bye 23:57 -!- d_oilen [n=iulian@89.18.29.87] has quit ["Leaving"] --- Log closed Sun Nov 23 00:00:49 2008