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08:26 < mtr> moin
08:44 < rxr> moin mtr
08:47 < mtr> hi rxr 
08:55 < CIA-67> rene * r31486 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.desc: * updated dbus (1.2.4 -> 1.2.8)
08:55 < CIA-67> rene * r31487 /trunk/package/network/dbus-glib/dbus-glib.desc: * updated dbus-glib (0.76 -> 0.78)
08:56 < CIA-67> rene * r31488 /trunk/package/base/rsyslog/rsyslog.desc: * updated rsyslog (3.20.0 -> 3.20.2)
09:40 < CIA-67> rene * r31490 /trunk/package/base/bonnie++/bonnie++.desc: * updated bonnie++ (1.03d -> 1.03e)
09:40 < CIA-67> rene * r31489 /trunk/package/network/aoetools/aoetools.desc: * updated aoetools (27 -> 29)
09:40 < CIA-67> rene * r31491 /trunk/package/develop/bazaar/bazaar.desc: * updated bazaar (1.9 -> 1.10)
09:40 < mpp> moinsen
10:30 < CIA-67> rene * r31492 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.conf: * configure recent busybox for MMU-less blackfin
10:45 < mpp> hey rxr
10:46 < mpp> dl2 + dl3 get quite some load :-)
10:46 < rxr> now you know why our "not too bad" office line was oversaturated ...
10:46 < mpp> is it getting better over there ?
10:47 < mpp> i had to block searche enigne bots
10:47 < rxr> with the mirrors taking the load, yes .-)
10:47 < mpp> they killed the bw even on my server
10:47 < rxr> ah - yep
10:47 < mpp> esp google is insane inscpecting all bz2 packages and iso images
10:47 < mpp> pahhh.
10:49 < rxr> yeah - they should know better by now
10:49 < rxr> on the other hand they might like to know all your secrets :-)
10:50 < mpp> right
10:50 < mpp> ok i scheduled mirror of the dl every night so dl2 +dl3 should be behind the most 24h
10:51 < CIA-67> rene * r31493 /trunk/architecture/blackfin/package/linux26/ (5 files): 
10:51 < CIA-67> * do not blindly use HEAD patches for the blackfin kernel,
10:51 < CIA-67> use the copy of the old, 2.6.20 files instead
10:52 < rxr> great
10:52 < rxr> we can start pushing new t2 releases then :-)
10:54 < rxr> can someone fix imagemagick and ghostscript to play together for me?
10:54 < rxr> their code hurts my eyes and I would have some eps to render to a bitmap :-(((
10:54 < rxr> guess it's time to implement an oen PostScript interpreter in exact-image :-(
10:55 < rxr> huh, !> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mcpu=bf533-0.3"
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11:22 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/zine/3/
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11:28 < CIA-67> rene * r31494 /trunk/target/embedded-minimal/ (. build.sh config.in pkgsel pkgsel.sed): * added truely minimal embedded example
11:29 < koan> rxr: a typo in the zine article "The CF card must be large enough to holt..."
11:29 < rxr> ah - yes thanks
11:29 < rxr> I even saw that in the email but forgot while cut'n pasting
11:30 < rxr> I wait with the commit for the case you find another one :-)
11:30 < koan> it's a nice walkthrough article
11:30 < koan> it's the only one I found :-)
11:30 < rxr> yeah - thanks to Iulian Demetrescu
11:30 < koan> oh wait
11:31 < koan> "Aditionally he is a system integrator..." at the end should be with two d's
11:32 < rxr> done
11:33 < koan> I have also such a Via mini-itx system, maybe I should try t2 on it
11:34 < koan> I'll have to think about a purpose for the machine, now it's collecting dust :-)
11:56 < michael-i> rxr, just synced up and started building. Thanks for your time in committing that!
11:58 < rxr> michael-i: the linux26 does not build anymore
11:58 < rxr> for blackfin
11:58 < rxr> ok - I just see that was the case before (old regression tester log)
11:58 < rxr> guess I did not particularly care about the blackfind kernel
11:59 < rxr> so when you build the new embedded-minimal for blackfin it should build except the linux26 package
11:59 < michael-i> I'm trying 486 for now, then moving on to blackfin. So far I've had to emerge-pkg gmp and mpfr because gcc fails without them
11:59 < rxr> I just update the blackfin toolchain as a new gcc / cpu option parsing is required for the mainline linux kernel
11:59 < rxr> ah - yesh - sorry forgot
11:59 < rxr> (I should delete them from my system :-)
12:00 < michael-i> Ok, good to know. Should I update those toolchains to the latest revision from blackfin.uclinux.org then?
12:00 < rxr> that is what I try right now
12:01 < rxr> maybe wait for my test to not waste time and test with 486 and/or the current version
12:01 < rxr> when I packaged the linux26 for blackfin overlay it built on that day - so even the current sources should be fixable ...
12:01 < rxr> when you do the same update right now you might just waste the time re-doing what I just did and wait to download and build ...
12:02 < CIA-67> rene * r31495 /trunk/target/embedded-minimal/ (pkgsel pkgsel.sed): * added gmp and mpfr (gcc dependencies) to the embedded-minimal target :-)
12:03 < michael-i> ok, I'll wait for now. 486 is compiling. I'll check the other target examples and try to add a libc option to the embedded-minimal target. Comparing a minimal glibc and a uclibc would be interesting.
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12:19 < rxr> hi Stealth 
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12:19 < Stealth> re
12:38 < mtr> what exactly was the optimisation problem with glibc-2.7?
12:38 < mtr> -Os is broken, right?
12:39 < mtr> the livecd target uses -Os, and build fails with:
12:39 < mtr> /work/T2/t2/src.glibc.tresc.20081208.215231.974.mwork/glibc-2.7/objdir/libc_pic.os: In function `faccessat':
12:39 < mtr> /work/T2/t2/src.glibc.tresc.20081208.215231.974.mwork/glibc-2.7/io/../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/faccessat.c:111: undefined reference to `fstatat64'
12:40 < mtr> is there a known workaround for this, other than using -O2?
12:47 < rxr> no this glibc stuff was too ugly for me
12:48 < rxr> but didn't I work around by exchanging Os with O2 in the glibc.conf ?
13:07 < michael-i> ar and strings are conflicting between binutils and busybox when embedded-minimal attempts to symlink the busybox programs. Would it be better/easier to disable binutils version or those in busybox?
13:09 < rxr> binutils should not have been installed in stage 1 of rhe embedded-minimal
13:09 < rxr> for the truely minimal thing no binutils and gcc should make it onto the target
13:09 < rxr> have you changed the target def ?
13:10 < rxr> oh - I got a typo in the pkgsel.sed .-(
13:10 < michael-i> yes, I added a uclibc/glibc selector and STATIC=0 and PKG_BUSYBOX_SYMLINKS=1 (http://pastebin.ca/1281567)
13:11 < michael-i> binutila....the Italian version? ;)
13:11 < CIA-67> rene * r31496 /trunk/target/embedded-minimal/pkgsel.sed: * fixed binutils typo in new embedded-minimal/pkgsel.sed
13:12 < rxr> yeah - as I did not got that error I guess it slipped in in soem last minute tweak of the file with vi ...
13:12 < rxr> binutila the nutela version ._9
13:12 < rxr> :-) even
13:12 < rxr> or how the nougat bread suggar thing is spelled :-)
13:13 < rxr> http://www.nutella.de/ even
13:13 < rxr> and just sugar sorry
13:13 < rxr> need lunch - cu
13:41 < michael-i> rxr, dropbear was missing zlib. I added it to pkgsel and now the image finishes compiling with uclibc (patch above). Packaging the image still fails because tar, readlink and rmdir are missing in /build/default-8.0-trunk-embedded-minimum-x86-i486-cross/embutils
13:42 < michael-i> total build directory size for uclibc 122MB. Now I'm trying using glibc
13:54 < rxr> you may not count the TOOLCHAIN dir
13:54 < rxr> to determine target image size use du of just [a-z]* in the build-dir
13:55 < rxr> the TOOLCHAIN will have hundreds of meg of cross compiler assembler linker and other support glue
13:55 < rxr> the uclibc target image will just be some single digit MB
13:55 < michael-i> I figured that but just took a quick measurement
13:56 < michael-i> I'll have another chance here soon hopefully with glibc (although I'm not sure my patch is working since uclibc is being buit again anyway)
13:56 < michael-i> ...and of course I have to for a presentation now
13:59 < michael-i> gotta go, be back later this evening
13:59 < michael-i> ciao
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14:44 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/zine/4/
15:24 < CIA-67> rene * r31497 /trunk/package/games/frozen-bubble/frozen-bubble.desc: * updated frozen-bubble (2.1.0 -> 2.2.0)
15:26 < koan> rxr: with which program did you create the graphs in the benchmark article?
15:31 < rxr> ploicus
15:31 < rxr> ploticus even
15:32 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/ploticus.html
15:35 < koan> looks nice
16:53 < mtr> removed -Os with a preconf-hook for the livecd target, now glib32 fails with:
16:53 < mtr> !> pthread_rwlock_trywrlock.c:45: Error: bad register name `%dil'
16:53 < mtr> arghh :(
16:54 < rxr> hm
17:42 < mtr> known problem, already fixed in CVS:
17:42 < mtr> http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/libc/nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/lowlevellock.h.diff?r1=1.38&r2=1.39&cvsroot=glibc
17:44 < rxr> patch import welcome
17:44 < rxr> btw. did I mention glibc is a stinky mess ?
17:49 < koan> several times :-)
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21:29 < haggis_pc> any1 awake?
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21:39 < d_oilen> hi
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22:02 < koan> rxr: if I emerge lua-sqlite3, I get the following error:
22:02 < koan> /usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-t2-linux-gnu/4.3.2/../../../../powerpc64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -llualib
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