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00:28 < koan> rxr: you accidentally made the ncmpc package files in a directory named ncmcp
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09:02 < rxr> koan: thanks, I even noticed that when adding but correctly it wrong :-(
09:02 < CIA-67> rene * r31503 /trunk/package/audio/ (ncmcp/ ncmpc/): * fixed ncmcp -> ncmpc
09:02 < rxr> (so much to cryptic package names :-)
09:04 < mpp> moinsen
09:12 < rxr> moin
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10:01 < CIA-67> rene * r31504 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/gtk-sharp2.desc: * updated gtk-sharp2 (2.12.6 -> 2.12.7)
10:01 < CIA-67> rene * r31506 /trunk/package/network/mausezahn/mausezahn.desc: * updated mausezahn (0.34.5 -> 0.34.6)
10:01 < CIA-67> rene * r31505 /trunk/package/graphic/libraw/libraw.desc: * updated libraw (0.6.2 -> 0.6.3)
10:02 < CIA-67> rene * r31507 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * updated man-pages (3.14 -> 3.15)
10:18 < CIA-67> mtr * r31508 /trunk/package/filesystem/aufs/compile.patch.cross: * re-diffed aufs cross build patch
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12:30 < CIA-67> mtr * r31509 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/build.patch: * fixed mesa cross build, need to use toolchain's ranlib
13:12 < koan> rxr: did you read about the other problems I reported here last night? (sorry if it was not clear, I was testing a lot of things at the same time)
13:37 < rxr> koan: no I have out got that - scrolled now - the udevinfo thing ?
13:37 < koan> yup
13:37 < koan> hald fails to start here
13:38 < koan> because it doesn't find udevinfo, but when I make a symlink to udevadm it fails again with this type of error:
13:38 < koan> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/hal/2008-July/012036.html
13:40 < rxr> hm
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14:14 < Freeman2411> hi guys
14:23 < koan> hi Freeman2411 
14:31 < rxr> hi Freeman2411 
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15:41 < Freeman2411> hi
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16:11 < tricky> hey
16:11 < tricky> is anyone here?
16:15 < rxr> sure
16:17 < tricky> kl
16:17 < tricky> i'm thinking of building a t2 system
16:17 < tricky> it looks like fun
16:17 < rxr> nice to hear
16:18 < tricky> ive only really been using ubuntu
16:18 < rxr> (it definetily is for for us)
16:18 < tricky> but i'm pretty fed up with it now
16:21 < Freeman2411> Please recommend a compiling machine for me! Phenom or so?
16:22 < koan> Freeman2411: all cpu's will do, but the faster the better of course, and the more RAM the better :-)
16:23 < Freeman2411> For fast compiling what is your suggestion?
16:24 < rxr> I stated with the code base some 10 years ago on some IDT WinChip @ 200MHz and still build the sparc isos on a just 360MHz SPARC ...
16:24 < koan> just use what you have :-)
16:24 < rxr> you just have to wait a little longer then
16:25 < tricky> is there an option to make use of multiple cores when compiling, i thought i saw that somewhere
16:26 < Freeman2411> that would be great! multiple cores
16:26 < Freeman2411> Yeah but I have to wait so long!
16:28 < rxr> yes, you can use multiple CPUs/Cores for building
16:29 < rxr> on Linux T2 even chooses a sensivle parallel make/build default
16:29 < Freeman2411> ah ok but I need my desktop also for work than I cannot work!
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16:33 < rxr> ?
16:33 < rxr> you can use process priorities to run the t2 build in the background - on Unix systems ... nice scripts/Build-Target ...
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18:48 < d_oilen> heeeeeelp
18:49 < d_oilen> udevd specified group uucp not known
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19:07 < d_oilen_> ok
19:07 < d_oilen_> no answer 
19:07 < d_oilen_> bye
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21:18 < bovnet> is anyone around
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21:27 < d_oilen> helo
21:28 < d_oilen> how do  install xorg?
21:29 < d_oilen> there's no meta package xorg and similar meta gnome2 how do i satisfy deps ?
22:01 < koan> d_oilen: I suggest you build the minimal-xorg target
22:01 < d_oilen> :)
22:01 < d_oilen> i did
22:01 < d_oilen> it does not wrk
22:01 < koan> what doesn't work?
22:01 < d_oilen> x cannot be configured
22:01 < koan> ah yes you should create a working xorg.xonf
22:02 < d_oilen> not only that
22:02 < koan> e.g. by running X -configure or T2's X configure script 
22:02 < koan> you can do that in stone
22:02 < koan> xorg.conf I mean
22:02 < d_oilen> koan i did that
22:02 < koan> then look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log what is going wrong
22:02 < d_oilen> the xorg configurattor from stone startx x and gives an error
22:02 < koan> which error?
22:03 < d_oilen> cannot find some lib or smth
22:03 < koan> which lib?
22:04 < d_oilen> well first of all i have udevd problems
22:04 < d_oilen> second networkong via dhcp does not work 
22:05 < d_oilen> the interface is brought up but with no assigned ip address
22:05 < koan> wait I'll boot into T2, then I can help you better
22:05 < d_oilen> koan don't do that
22:05 < koan> ?
22:05 < d_oilen> i already gave up and installed a fresh t2 minimal
22:05 < d_oilen> and started to build my own x
22:05 < d_oilen> setup
22:06 < koan> I don't think that will work better
22:06 < d_oilen> after i build mine and it will work i will try to fix the errors in t2 trunk
22:06 < d_oilen> the problem is i think in trunk
22:06 < koan> I once installed a minimal target and tried to get a working X, but there are so many libs you have to think of, it's better to start with minimal-xorg
22:06 < d_oilen> if i use 7.0 everithyng works
22:06 < d_oilen> ok
22:06 < koan> I'm using trunk now
22:07 < d_oilen> actually as far as i remember the t2 x confgurator found my video card ATI
22:08 < d_oilen> the xorg gave an error for that but was not related to card. and i didn't investigate too much
22:08 < d_oilen> i was much more concerned about the network and that udev
22:08 < d_oilen> problem
22:08 < d_oilen> since i cannot fix anything without proper network to download
22:09 < d_oilen> but i have the cd
22:09 < d_oilen> and i will install it again and report back to you
22:09 < d_oilen> i usually try to fix my own errors and possibly report back
22:09 < koan> voila I'm in T2
22:10 < koan> I have also the udevd error at boot, but it seems harmless
22:10 < koan> what does your /etc/conf/network look like?
22:11 < d_oilen> interface
22:11 < d_oilen>               dhcp
22:11 < d_oilen> interface eth0
22:11 < d_oilen>                              dhcp
22:12 < koan> if you change the dhcp for interface eth0 to dhcpcd and install the package dhcpcd, networking works
22:13 < d_oilen> k
22:13 < d_oilen> lemme do that 
22:13 < d_oilen> inx
22:13 < d_oilen> tnx
22:14 < d_oilen> what is the difference?
22:14 < koan> as far as I remember, the dhcp line uses dhclient, and there was something wrong with that in trunk
22:14 < d_oilen> hmmm ok
22:14 < koan> at least I couldn't get it working here
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22:45 < koan> rxr: I investigated the hald problem and built version 0.5.12rc1
22:46 < koan> this solves the problem
22:46 < koan> hald works now
22:46 < koan> should we update the desc file?
22:50 < koan> in case you would consider it, I have sent you the updated desc file
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