--- Log opened Wed Jan 28 00:00:26 2009
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08:29 < CIA-23> rene * r31957 /trunk/package/office/openoffice-org/openoffice-org.desc:
08:29 < CIA-23> * changed openoffice-org to build by default (at least it currently
08:29 < CIA-23> does and ususally should)
08:38 < CIA-23> rene * r31958 /trunk/package/xorg/xkeyboard-config/xkeyboard-config.desc: * updated xkeyboard-config (1.4 -> 1.5)
09:17 < rxr> gimp-2.6 on an older system:
09:17 < rxr> ar.po:5705: keyword "msgctxt" unknown
09:17 < rxr> ar.po:5705:8: parse error
09:17 < rxr> what a fun
09:43 < CIA-23> aldas * r31959 /trunk/package/network/nagios/nagios.desc: * updated nagios (3.0.6 -> 3.1.0)
09:43 < CIA-23> aldas * r31960 /trunk/package/kde/soprano/soprano.desc: * updated soprano (2.1.1 -> 2.2)
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10:37 < CIA-23> rene * r31961 /trunk/package/emulators/xenner/ (. xenner.cache xenner.desc): * added xenner (0.64) - A utility to run paravirtualized Xen kernels in KVM
10:59 < CIA-23> aldas * r31962 /trunk/package/kde/k3b/ (k3b.cache k3b.desc): * updated k3b (1.0.95-r903441 -> 1.0.95-r916394)
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11:10 < Baldzius> moin
11:19 < rxr> hey Baldzius
11:20 < Baldzius> hi rxr
11:21 < rxr> you got me kde-4.2 "heads up" mails this morning ?
11:21 < Baldzius> with soprano?
11:31 < rxr> no, just the general "I'm just starting the update" to prevent duplicate work note ?
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11:32 [@ChanServ] [ digitaloktay] [ mqueiros_] [ synchris ]
11:32 [ Baldzius] [ dsoul ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ]
11:32 [ CIA-23 ] [ koan ] [ rxr ] [ {Brad} ]
11:32 [ DEac-_ ] [ LMJ ] [ Stealth ] [ |beowulf|]
11:32 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
11:37 < Baldzius> oh no
11:37 < rxr> strange, just wondered anyway
11:37 < Baldzius> i thought this might isn't related to 4.2
11:38 < Baldzius> myself i am sitting on 4-2RC
11:38 < Baldzius> so can't say for sure
11:38 < Baldzius> so if you are going to update i would test it
11:38 < rxr> 4-2RC on a t2 ?
11:38 < Baldzius> everything should be fine anyway i guess
11:38 < Baldzius> locally
11:38 < rxr> neat
11:39 < Baldzius> 4.1.4 wan't really good release
11:39 < Baldzius> couple of packages doesn't compile
11:39 < Baldzius> so i'd say we should move onto 4.2 asap
11:39 < rxr> yeah - I agree, Since KDE 4 I run blackbox on all boxes, again
11:39 < rxr> as in the "Good old times" :-9
11:39 < Baldzius> i was using fluxbox
11:40 < Baldzius> but since got new laptop i decided to give a try with 4.2
11:40 < Baldzius> so far have nothing against it
11:40 < rxr> cool, what laptop ?
11:40 < Baldzius> rather small anoying thing with console
11:40 < Baldzius> cheap one
11:40 < Baldzius> Dell 1510
11:40 < rxr> netbook ?
11:40 < Baldzius> no
11:40 < Baldzius> normal laptop
11:40 < rxr> ic
11:41 < rxr> I know you already do much for t2, but if you have some extra seconds a hardware entry would be great: http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/portable/
11:41 < Baldzius> company bought it replacing old one
11:41 < Baldzius> cracked the sreen
11:41 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/portable/Dell/
11:41 < rxr> put don't feel pushed
11:42 < rxr> source of www is here: http://svn.exactcode.de/www-t2/trunk/hardware/portable/
11:43 < rxr> I'm still evaluating which netbook I should get myself for "reading / work on the road"
11:43 < Baldzius> ok, maybe over the weekend
11:43 < rxr> the biggest showstopper (aside that I'm a bit used to high-end design from ths Apple use the last decade) is tha the Intel Atom N series has neither 64bit nor VT :-(
11:43 < Baldzius> for the netbook i'd say most important is the quality of screen
11:43 < Baldzius> ususally it applies to everything related with computers
11:43 < rxr> and running some VM of customer t2 target stuff for work on the road would be a must ...
11:44 < Baldzius> myself i am going to wait for AMD Neo
11:44 < rxr> yeah - probably I also just wait even longer ...
11:44 < Baldzius> to see how things are going to be after this
11:44 < rxr> or if the Via Nano ever comes to the market
11:44 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2009-01-15/intel-atom-no-64-bit-nor-vt/
11:44 < Baldzius> or Nano
11:44 < rxr> yeah - Nano is listed to feature booth 64bit and VT
11:45 < rxr> and is a little faster than the standard uni-core N2xx ...
11:45 < rxr> both even
11:45 < rxr> aside from that the HP Mini 2140 is so far one of the strongest devices IMHO
11:49 < Baldzius> there are rumours all around the internet that HP is not the best option regarding the quality
11:49 < Baldzius> not sure about those new Mini
11:57 < CIA-23> aldas * r31963 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc: * updated dovecot (1.1.9 -> 1.1.10)
11:58 < CIA-23> aldas * r31964 /trunk/package/x11/metisse/metisse.desc: * updated metisse (0.4.0-rc4 -> 0.4.1)
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12:56 < rxr> Baldzius: so phonon should be removed as single package ?
12:56 < Baldzius> no
12:56 < rxr> new source Url ?
12:56 < CIA-23> rene * r31965 /trunk/package/contrib/bandwidth/bandwidth.desc: * updated bandwidth (0.14 -> 0.16)
12:57 < Baldzius> it's just in the same location like the rest of kde*
12:57 < rxr> ah - thanks
12:57 < rxr> v 4.3.0 ?
12:57 < Baldzius> ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.2.0/src/phonon-4.3.0.tar.bz2
12:57 < Baldzius> yes
12:58 < rxr> interesting versioning scheme
12:58 < Baldzius> yeah
12:58 < Baldzius> something like with arts
12:58 < Baldzius> i think they might even the numbers after couple of releases
13:00 < Baldzius> lxde.org is not loading only for me?
13:00 < rxr> ok - quite hungry, now - gotta lunch
13:01 < rxr> llxde.org does not yield something for me in this second, neither
13:01 < rxr> cu
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13:39 < rxr> re
14:14 < CIA-23> aldas * r31966 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.4.4-10 -> 6.4.8-9)
14:14 < CIA-23> aldas * r31967 /trunk/package/mail/mailscanner/mailscanner.desc: * updated mailscanner (4.71.10-1 -> 4.74.12-1)
15:27 < CIA-23> rene * r31968 /trunk/package/office/libical/ (. libical.cache libical.desc): * added libical (0.43) - A iCal standard (RFC 2445) implementation
15:49 < rxr> Baldzius: I just committed the kde update
15:49 < rxr> maybe too much text for CIA-23 ...
15:52 < Baldzius> ql
15:52 < Baldzius> i will test it
15:53 < rxr> might have minimally shared files
15:53 < rxr> have to wipe my ref build - it already accumulated noise from various rebuild iterations ...
15:54 < Baldzius> yeah, shared is nothing
16:24 < CIA-23> aldas * r31970 /trunk/package/base/hdparm/hdparm.desc: * updated hdparm (9.6 -> 9.10)
16:25 < Baldzius> btw rxr i think on trunk grub is broken booting from ext3 or even ext2 i think
16:25 < rxr> yes, we had this in IRC some time back
16:25 < Baldzius> have you tried to boot from any of those fs lately?
16:26 < rxr> it is just the new mkext3fs using some strange new default setting
16:26 < Baldzius> cause everytime i have to stick with reiserfs
16:26 < Baldzius> you think?
16:26 < rxr> I never used ext* in the last years, I only used reiserfs ...
16:26 < Baldzius> ok
16:26 < Baldzius> this this strange
16:26 < rxr> but IIRC from the IRC discussion the latest mkfs.ext2 use the older default again
16:26 < rxr> maybe double check if trunk works
16:26 < Baldzius> if it's related to ext2fsprogs there should be a fix definently
16:27 < rxr> it was just some strange new, higher inode count something setting ...
16:27 < Baldzius> as it affects mostly all of distributions
16:27 < rxr> yes, all distributiosn including fedora / suse, etc.
16:27 < rxr> strange upstream guys
16:27 < Baldzius> hm
16:27 < rxr> personally I find the random regressions on the open source world at a quite high rate the last years ...
16:27 < Baldzius> but i think it's stil the same with the latest e2fsprogs
16:27 < rxr> hm - then we have to patch it ..
16:28 < Baldzius> ok i might look myself
16:28 < Baldzius> as i didn't expect it's globally
16:28 < Baldzius> thought only t2 related
16:28 < rxr> btw. noticed our new in-site search: http://t2-project.org/search/?cx=010888532094808064914%3Aq0bx6ixm8lk&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=ext3+boot+grub#887
16:29 < Baldzius> 2007-09-08?
16:30 < rxr> I think that's something else
16:30 < rxr> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=463123
16:31 < rxr> hm - not yet indexed by google ...
16:32 < Baldzius> so debian guys just seded the inode size
16:32 < Baldzius> to be created by default
16:32 < Baldzius> back to 128
16:32 < rxr> ok - let's help google, here it is: http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/t2-2008-12-14.html <- please index !!!
16:33 < Baldzius> grub-support-256byte-inode.patch doesn't look big
16:33 < Baldzius> i might try it
16:33 < rxr> yeah - that would be great as well .-)
16:35 < Baldzius> also i think i saw grub patch support booting from ext4 partition
16:35 < Baldzius> that might be also handy
16:35 < Baldzius> ok, thanks for the help rxr :)
17:05 * rxr looking forward to that patches .-)
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