--- Log opened Mon Aug 17 00:00:38 2009 00:38 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 00:38 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 01:03 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 01:03 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 01:28 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 01:28 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 01:53 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 01:53 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 03:38 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 03:38 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 05:08 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 05:08 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 06:03 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 06:03 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 06:43 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 06:43 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 07:48 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 07:48 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 08:08 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 08:08 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 08:43 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 08:43 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 09:15 < rxr> hi 09:15 < rxr> mtr: oh 09:15 < rxr> moin moin 09:18 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 09:18 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 09:21 < CIA-69> rene * r33877 /trunk/package/shells/bash/bash.conf: * further generalized the bash patch applying, to hopefully avoid touching it soon again 10:25 < CIA-69> rene * r33878 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.30.4 -> 2.6.30.5) 10:37 < CIA-69> rene * r33879 /trunk/package/develop/autogen/autogen.desc: * updated autogen (5.9.8 -> 5.9.9) 10:51 < CIA-69> rene * r33880 /trunk/package/perl/perl-anyevent/perl-anyevent.desc: * updated perl-anyevent (5.01 -> 5.11) 10:51 < CIA-69> rene * r33881 /trunk/package/network/vblade/vblade.desc: * updated vblade (19 -> 20) 10:51 < CIA-69> rene * r33882 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.desc: * updated whois (4.7.34 -> 4.7.36) 10:51 < CIA-69> rene * r33883 /trunk/package/base/pciutils/pciutils.desc: * updated pciutils (3.1.3 -> 3.1.4) 10:51 < CIA-69> rene * r33884 /trunk/package/archiver/icoutils/icoutils.desc: * updated icoutils (0.27.0 -> 0.28.0) 11:00 < CIA-69> rene * r33885 /trunk/package/develop/viewvc/viewvc.desc: * updated viewvc (1.0.8 -> 1.0.9) 11:15 < mtr> moin 11:16 < rxr> hi mtr 11:16 < rxr> how's life ? 11:17 < mtr> hi rxr, belated best wishes! 11:18 < mtr> congratulations and greetings to susan 11:18 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 11:18 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 11:19 < mtr> I'm on vacation currently and got some minutes for test builds again ;-) 11:19 < rxr> mtr: thanks 11:21 < rxr> regarding trunk some of balzius updates broken a little acl/attr and lvm2 11:21 < rxr> will try to fix soon 11:21 < rxr> though if you do that would be welcome, too :-) 11:22 < mtr> attr fails to install the correct .so into /lib 11:23 < mtr> ... workarounded by manual copying into $buildroot to get the build going on 11:23 < rxr> for me it fails to even link ... 11:23 < rxr> in a 32bit test build on a 64bit system 11:23 < rxr> broken crap packages ... 11:24 * rxr wonders how such vitial core stuff can have such broken build system (configure, Makefile.*, etc.) ... 11:24 < mtr> still plain 32bit in my builds 11:26 < mtr> I have some work on aufs/aufs2 to be committed, and updated util-linux-ng to 2.16 11:26 < rxr> sounds great 11:26 < rxr> how's your job going on ? 11:26 < mtr> things are going well, thanks 11:27 < rxr> good to hear - I guess not really t2 at work right now? 11:27 < mtr> even its really time consuming - too less time for working on t2 currently 11:27 < mtr> unfortunately not ;-) 11:27 < rxr> yeah - guessed given the nature of the product ... 11:29 < mtr> there is an opportunity to get t2 in touch with this, but its in early stages, maybe later this year 11:30 < rxr> :-) 11:30 < rxr> mtr: btw. for the non-Linux kernel work 11:30 < rxr> mtr: I got mingw32 (windows 32) support for t2 lingering in some other tree on my multi-core server 11:31 < rxr> that is use T2 to cross build windows executables ... :-) 11:31 < rxr> should flush that sometime soon 11:31 < rxr> includes basic infrastucture for kernel/ and a [K|ERNEL] .desc tag 11:31 < rxr> just in case you might need something like that for win32 controls at work :-) 11:32 < mtr> http://www.linuxtag.org/2009/en/program/freies-vortragsprogramm/wednesday/details.html?talkid=185 11:33 < mtr> win32 support sounds great, but I am trying to migrate internal projects over to Linux 11:34 < rxr> :-) 11:34 < rxr> just wanted to spread the word to save others times and make their life easier :-) 11:34 < mtr> nevertheless there are still requirements to have win32 11:34 < rxr> of course linux migrations welcome :-) 11:40 < CIA-69> mtr * r33886 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 11:40 < CIA-69> * updated util-linux (2.14.2 -> 2.16) 11:40 < CIA-69> * changed util-linux build priority (179.200 -> 179.198): 11:40 < CIA-69> build before e2fsprogs 11:40 < CIA-69> * build e2fsprogs with external libs blkid/uuid, which are 11:40 < CIA-69> part of util-linux-ng since 2.16 11:43 < CIA-69> mtr * r33887 /trunk/package/filesystem/aufs/ (7 files): 11:43 < CIA-69> * updated aufs (2008-10-21 -> 2009-05-22) 11:43 < CIA-69> * set to O as newer kernels are not supported any more 11:43 < CIA-69> in favour of aufs2 11:48 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 11:48 < rxr> mtr: there is a new aufs in their git: +[D] X aufs2-2009-06-15.tar.bz2 git+http://git.c3sl.ufpr.br/pub/scm/aufs/aufs2-standalone.git aufs2-standalone 11:48 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 11:48 < rxr> but that url does not really work yet 11:54 < mtr> aufs2 pkg desc follows, I am only waiting for the desktop test build to generate .cache files to commit 11:59 < mtr> the aufs2.desc git url has to include the branch name: 11:59 < mtr> git+http://git.c3sl.ufpr.br/pub/scm/aufs/aufs2-standalone.git origin/aufs2-30 11:59 < mtr> for post-clone checkout 12:26 < rxr> aga 12:26 < rxr> maybe you like to update aufs, likewise :-) 12:42 < mtr> what is the state of the xorg pkgs? libxext fails due to new/changed header filenames from xextproto 12:42 < mtr> should we try/update to development revision, like libXext-1.0.99.4, pixman-0.15.20 ? 12:45 < rxr> not pixman 12:45 < rxr> (I have it in my local auto-tester) but in general we should only use stable releases 12:45 < rxr> pixman will soon be 0.16, so why bother getting more regressions by some abritrary development releases? 12:46 < rxr> and I have some strange X regression in my auto-builder anyway 12:46 < rxr> in general this open source mess these days breaks more often than not 12:46 < rxr> I would personally try to avoid extra work by sticking to released "named stable" 12:46 < rxr> they cause enough trouble already, anyway 12:47 < mtr> ack 12:47 < mtr> so waiting for them to sync their releases 12:48 < rxr> there might be already something out of sync in the t2/trunk 12:48 < mtr> libxext(stable) fails to build with xextproto(stable) 12:48 < rxr> at least I get major xlib breakage in my auto-builder 12:48 < rxr> not sure if that is pending stuff or already in the tree ... 12:48 < rxr> you mean as in t2/trunk:HEAD ? 12:48 < rxr> maybe that is what I got here 12:49 -!- csiadmin [n=csiadmin@81.144.152.52] has joined #t2 12:49 < rxr> mtr: we should dongrade revert to some working set ... 12:49 < mtr> yes, its in our tree 12:49 < rxr> yeah - was not yet sure if trunk or my WC ... 12:49 < rxr> :-((( 12:49 < rxr> damnit 12:58 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 12:58 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 13:15 < mtr> downgrading: xextproto 7.1.0 -> 7.0.5, fixesproto 4.1 -> 4.0 13:15 < mtr> http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-July/001414.html 13:16 < rxr> ok 13:16 < mtr> xorg releases after July 15th have high potential of breaking something ... ;-) 13:17 < rxr> toll 13:33 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 13:33 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 14:01 < csiadmin> hi all, anyone ever tried to implement anaconda (or alternative installer to stone) in t2? 14:08 < rxr> not that I know of 14:27 < csiadmin> rxr: thx I had a look at the archvista install script, at the moment I'm working on getting my build right 14:38 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 14:38 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 14:40 < rxr> koan: http://www.golem.de/0908/69099.html 14:41 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/t2-2009-02-27.html 14:44 < koan> interesting 14:45 < rxr> yeah - kind of what I was talking about back in Februrary 14:45 < koan> sorry for the quit-join mess btw, my vps seems to have a problematic connection 14:46 < rxr> NOP 14:56 < koan> I should brush up my German, there are so many interesting technology media in Germany :) 14:57 < rxr> well - thos slides of the unreal guy are english anyway :-) 14:57 < rxr> there are good english ones anyway, tomshardware, arstechnica, engadget ... 14:58 < rxr> I linked them all here: http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ 14:58 < rxr> (t2 users get that as their's browser default home-page 14:59 < koan> I'm following Ars Technica especially with much interest 15:00 < rxr> I'm a little annoyed by the osnews.com tone ... 15:00 < koan> but Golem.de seems to catch many things I can't find elsewhere 15:00 < rxr> 10y ago that was my favourite site of the day ... 15:01 < koan> they have interesting things, but indeed, their tone is also not my cup of tea 15:01 < rxr> in the past I contribute some articles to them 15:23 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 15:23 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 15:42 < csiadmin> hi all, java jdk is a manual install - I've just build a new target with it. The build succeeded but there's no java or jdk on the target. Is there something else I've to do? 15:43 < rxr> maybe you have to flip some "bundle binary packages option" that is off by default for legal safety reasons 15:43 < rxr> but honestly, I have never wanted to ship with such non-open stuff, maybe it's something else 15:46 -!- amazon10x [i=captain@liberstation.com] has joined #t2 15:47 -!- amazon10x [i=captain@liberstation.com] has left #t2 [] 15:47 < csiadmin> rxr: thx I'll keep looking 16:05 -!- mjungwirth [n=mjungwir@213.174.234.68] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:43 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 16:43 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 18:02 -!- Xunie [n=Xunie@5ED1BFF8.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #t2 18:05 -!- Xunie [n=Xunie@5ED1BFF8.cable.ziggo.nl] has left #t2 ["."] 19:07 -!- csiadmin [n=csiadmin@81.144.152.52] has quit [] 19:18 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 19:18 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 21:23 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 21:23 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 23:28 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 23:28 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 23:43 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 23:43 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Tue Aug 18 00:00:38 2009