T2 IRC Log: 2009-10-12
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--- Log opened Mon Oct 12 00:00:43 2009
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09:48 < CIA-38> rene * r34478 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgsf/libgsf.desc: * updated libgsf (1.14.15 -> 1.14.16)
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09:58 < rxr> moin
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11:10 < mpp> moinsen
11:10 < rxr> moin moin
11:11 < mpp> rxr: got a generic question about t2 on x86 platform
11:11 < rxr> .oO (yes?)
11:11 < mpp> have you succesfully loaded linux drivers that require firmware ?
11:11 < mpp> i have a huge problem with that
11:11 < rxr> in the past yes
11:11 < mpp> since the bnx2 module has been modified to load external firmware files
11:11 < rxr> adaptex usb2xchange scsi cable, dvb-t receiver etc.
11:12 < mpp> the driver does not load anymore
11:12 < rxr> but not with t2/trunk in the last month
11:12 < rxr> hm
11:12 < rxr> during boot ?
11:12 < mpp> can you recall the latest version working for u ?
11:12 < mpp> ahm not exactly
11:12 < mpp> for now i have the rescue initramfs target
11:13 < mpp> but despite the fact the firmware is in the propper locations
11:13 < mpp> they are not loaded....
11:13 < mpp> i suspect sysfs udev issues ....
11:13 < mpp> that's why i asked if you have successfully loaded modules with ext. firmware files in the past
11:13 < rxr> I'm right now preparing to release all-cross-built minimal ISOs
11:14 < mpp> k
11:14 < rxr> and plan to test them when I tweak HEAD to cross build whole isos
11:14 < mpp> great
11:14 < rxr> so I can build all esoteric fluff on the 8-core in the future
11:14 < mpp> i'll keep u posted on that since it is mainstream hp servers
11:14 < rxr> (and not wait for e.g. the 360MHz UltraSPARC ... for a release)
11:14 < mpp> alot of people use those ... :-)
11:15 < rxr> and I plan to get a "netbook" on the win7 release day
11:15 < rxr> and wanted to test t2 trunk isos then
11:15 < mpp> i read about it
11:15 < mpp> k
11:15 < rxr> that's some days off though, ... like oct 22nd
11:15 < mpp> np
11:15 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2009-10-01/the-device-vacuum-introduced-by-windows-7/
11:15 < rxr> though if you find one given me a Nokia Booklet before the 22nd I'll do the trunk testing immediately ... :-)
11:16 < rxr> the next days I wanted to take a look a cross build isos first
11:17 < rxr> guess I'll also need a new, AMD server
11:17 < mpp> :-)
11:17 < mpp> cool
11:17 < rxr> the Intel VT is just wasting too many CPU cylces
11:18 < mpp> that is correct
11:18 < rxr> 8way Xeon only deliver like 4core performance with KVM :-(
11:18 < mpp> VT is slow !!!
11:18 < rxr> yeah, I know
11:18 < rxr> probably told so quite some times here over the last year ...
11:18 < rxr> do you use KVM at work ?
11:32 < mpp> nope
11:32 < mpp> vmware mainly
12:46 < rxr> ic
12:57 < rxr> cu - lunch
14:19 < CIA-38> rene * r34485 /trunk/package/editors/minised/minised.desc: * updated minised (1.12 -> 1.13)
14:42 < CIA-38> rene * r34486 /trunk/package/base/busybox/ (busybox.desc linuxrc-location.patch): * updated busybox (1.14.3 -> 1.15.1)
14:42 < CIA-38> rene * r34487 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.desc: * updated busybox (1.15.1 -> 1.15.2)
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15:20 < CIA-38> rene * r34488 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/ (00-minimal.in 10-minimal-xorg.in):
15:20 < CIA-38> * moved image libraries from minimal to minimal-xorg
15:20 < CIA-38> * removed hotplug++ from the default selections
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17:06 < CIA-38> rene * r34489 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: * adapted linux kernel image installation for unified sparc
17:08 < CIA-38> rene * r34490 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/00-minimal.in: * added libpcap for ppp
17:13 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/minised.html
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17:49 < rxr> la le lu, ... load average: 17.47, 17.71, 16.15, dum di dum, ...
17:49 * rxr needs an KVM and Intel silicon replacement
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22:45 < cb88> has anyone tried to build T2 for SPARC lately? I tried building for SPARC v8 first since it is a supersparc but the build failed early on with GCC ... I'm doing a Pentium II build right now its in stage 5 building the kernel so I doubt it is a problem with my system
22:46 < cb88> SPARC32 that is
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09:48 < CIA-38> rene * r34478 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgsf/libgsf.desc: * updated libgsf (1.14.15 -> 1.14.16)
09:48 < CIA-38> rene * r34479 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgda/libgda.desc: * updated libgda (4.0.4 -> 4.0.5)
09:49 < CIA-38> rene * r34480 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libwww/perl-libwww.desc: * updated perl-libwww (5.832 -> 5.833)
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09:58 < rxr> moin
10:31 < CIA-38> rene * r34481 /trunk/package/base/sgutils/sgutils.desc: * updated sgutils (1.27 -> 1.28)
10:32 < CIA-38> rene * r34482 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (1.1.30 -> 1.1.31)
10:33 < CIA-38> rene * r34483 /trunk/package/gnome2/brasero/brasero.desc: * updated brasero (2.28.0 -> 2.28.1)
10:33 < CIA-38> rene * r34484 /trunk/package/python/psycopg2/psycopg2.desc: * updated psycopg2 (2.0.12 -> 2.0.13)
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11:10 < mpp> moinsen
11:10 < rxr> moin moin
11:11 < mpp> rxr: got a generic question about t2 on x86 platform
11:11 < rxr> .oO (yes?)
11:11 < mpp> have you succesfully loaded linux drivers that require firmware ?
11:11 < mpp> i have a huge problem with that
11:11 < rxr> in the past yes
11:11 < mpp> since the bnx2 module has been modified to load external firmware files
11:11 < rxr> adaptex usb2xchange scsi cable, dvb-t receiver etc.
11:12 < mpp> the driver does not load anymore
11:12 < rxr> but not with t2/trunk in the last month
11:12 < rxr> hm
11:12 < rxr> during boot ?
11:12 < mpp> can you recall the latest version working for u ?
11:12 < mpp> ahm not exactly
11:12 < mpp> for now i have the rescue initramfs target
11:13 < mpp> but despite the fact the firmware is in the propper locations
11:13 < mpp> they are not loaded....
11:13 < mpp> i suspect sysfs udev issues ....
11:13 < mpp> that's why i asked if you have successfully loaded modules with ext. firmware files in the past
11:13 < rxr> I'm right now preparing to release all-cross-built minimal ISOs
11:14 < mpp> k
11:14 < rxr> and plan to test them when I tweak HEAD to cross build whole isos
11:14 < mpp> great
11:14 < rxr> so I can build all esoteric fluff on the 8-core in the future
11:14 < mpp> i'll keep u posted on that since it is mainstream hp servers
11:14 < rxr> (and not wait for e.g. the 360MHz UltraSPARC ... for a release)
11:14 < mpp> alot of people use those ... :-)
11:15 < rxr> and I plan to get a "netbook" on the win7 release day
11:15 < rxr> and wanted to test t2 trunk isos then
11:15 < mpp> i read about it
11:15 < mpp> k
11:15 < rxr> that's some days off though, ... like oct 22nd
11:15 < mpp> np
11:15 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2009-10-01/the-device-vacuum-introduced-by-windows-7/
11:15 < rxr> though if you find one given me a Nokia Booklet before the 22nd I'll do the trunk testing immediately ... :-)
11:16 < rxr> the next days I wanted to take a look a cross build isos first
11:17 < rxr> guess I'll also need a new, AMD server
11:17 < mpp> :-)
11:17 < mpp> cool
11:17 < rxr> the Intel VT is just wasting too many CPU cylces
11:18 < mpp> that is correct
11:18 < rxr> 8way Xeon only deliver like 4core performance with KVM :-(
11:18 < mpp> VT is slow !!!
11:18 < rxr> yeah, I know
11:18 < rxr> probably told so quite some times here over the last year ...
11:18 < rxr> do you use KVM at work ?
11:32 < mpp> nope
11:32 < mpp> vmware mainly
12:46 < rxr> ic
12:57 < rxr> cu - lunch
14:19 < CIA-38> rene * r34485 /trunk/package/editors/minised/minised.desc: * updated minised (1.12 -> 1.13)
14:42 < CIA-38> rene * r34486 /trunk/package/base/busybox/ (busybox.desc linuxrc-location.patch): * updated busybox (1.14.3 -> 1.15.1)
14:42 < CIA-38> rene * r34487 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.desc: * updated busybox (1.15.1 -> 1.15.2)
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15:20 < CIA-38> * moved image libraries from minimal to minimal-xorg
15:20 < CIA-38> * removed hotplug++ from the default selections
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17:06 < CIA-38> rene * r34489 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: * adapted linux kernel image installation for unified sparc
17:08 < CIA-38> rene * r34490 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/00-minimal.in: * added libpcap for ppp
17:13 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/minised.html
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17:49 < rxr> la le lu, ... load average: 17.47, 17.71, 16.15, dum di dum, ...
17:49 * rxr needs an KVM and Intel silicon replacement
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22:45 < cb88> has anyone tried to build T2 for SPARC lately? I tried building for SPARC v8 first since it is a supersparc but the build failed early on with GCC ... I'm doing a Pentium II build right now its in stage 5 building the kernel so I doubt it is a problem with my system
22:46 < cb88> SPARC32 that is
--- Log closed Tue Oct 13 00:00:43 2009