--- Log opened Sat Oct 31 00:00:17 2009
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01:09 < cb88> ok I have switched to an embedded minmal build to avoid glibc... and gotten binutils to compile by removing uclibc patchs since they are probaby out of date (just a guess)
01:09 < cb88> they also fail to apply anyay
01:09 < cb88> *anyway
01:19 < cb88> I suppose I will post to the mailing list about this since I won't be on this cable connection again until next week
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01:57 < cb88> mqueiros: do you happen to know anything about building t2 for sparc32?
02:35 < mqueiros> cb88: no sorry, I only build on x86
02:41 < cb88> ok
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11:01 < rxr> moin
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11:44 < CIA-38> rene * r34763 /trunk/package/x86/x86info/x86info.desc: * updated x86info (1.24 -> 1.25)
11:45 < rxr> this Chameleon boot loader is also some unsorted pile of crap, damnit
11:46 < rxr> wasted quite some hours here to spot the differing behaviour from the documentation
11:46 < rxr> looks like the boot(2) partition needs to be set active to be loaded, too
11:47 < rxr> so, last but not least I need to figure out how to get windows 7 to load again
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11:55 < rxr> hi gw
11:55 < gw> hi rxr
11:55 < rxr> need to get water for the coffee machine
11:57 < rxr> guess I'll install win7 a third time, yuck, without this freaking "boot system partition thing, ...
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14:04 < rxr> what also really get's on my nerves is the instability of OpenVZ
14:05 < rxr> the f*cking old 2.6.18 kernel that is the last known "stable" openvz has so horrible kvm drivers, my oh my
14:05 < rxr> I need to get rid of the last OpenVZ instance ASAP
14:33 < CIA-38> rene * r34764 /trunk/package/archiver/gzip/gzip.desc: * updated gzip (1.3.11 -> 1.3.12)
14:37 < CIA-38> rene * r34765 /trunk/package/archiver/gzip/ (glibc26.patch gzip.conf gzip.desc): * updated gzip (1.3.12 -> 1.3.13)
14:37 < CIA-38> rene * r34766 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.7.62 -> 0.7.63)
15:34 < capey> anyone awake?
15:39 < rxr> yep
15:39 < rxr> hi capey
15:39 < rxr> I think I just finished triple boot on my Nokia Booklet
15:39 < rxr> T2, OSX, Win7
15:40 < capey> :)
15:40 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/portable/Nokia/Booklet-3G/
15:40 < rxr> windows vista (6) / 7 bootmgr is no fun
15:41 < capey> i completly forgot how to check on arch in package.conf, if arch is x86_64 i need to append confopt parameter
15:41 < rxr> despite my windows skills degraded quite a bit in the last decade, forgot what a fricking fluff that is ...
15:41 < rxr> if [ "$arch" == "xyz" ]; then ... ; end # should do
15:41 < rxr> or just:
15:41 < rxr> [ "$arch" == "xyz" ] && ...
15:42 < capey> with the binutils in svn:trunk, openssl fails to build and i need to append confopt no-asm for it
15:42 < rxr> grep on arch over the package/*/*/*.conf should reveal some examples
15:42 < capey> ah yes, thanks
15:42 < rxr> is it soo hard to fix?
15:42 < rxr> maybe some few character fix is in order to import?
15:43 < rxr> rather than disabling it's asm optimizations?
15:43 < capey> havent really checked what is causing it...
15:43 < capey> error was # md5-x86_64.s: Assembler messages:
15:43 < capey> # md5-x86_64.s:41: Error: 0xd76aa478 out range of signed 32bit displacement
15:44 < capey> could take a look after i get this desktop target build, by other packages as well
15:45 < rxr> I hope the new binutils do not break too much other stuff :-()(
15:45 < capey> heh :)
15:45 < capey> hopefully it wont
15:46 < rxr> I just wipe my reference64 build and start from scratch
15:46 < rxr> I bet there will also be some patch floating on the net for the openssl issue already
15:47 < capey> yep, there might be
15:47 < rxr> http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-binutils@gnu.org/msg08242.html
15:49 < rxr> http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10636
15:51 < rxr> no patch found, yet
15:52 < capey> nope, not yet
15:52 < capey> so, how the nokia booklet feels like? good/bad?
15:56 < rxr> wish it would be a litte more quality for the money, e.g. better display (heavy TN dithering) and less finger print showing keyboard
15:56 < rxr> but aside from that best (only usable :-) NetBook yet
15:56 < capey> :)
15:56 < rxr> the Intel Poulsbo graphic is of course a problem on Linux and OS X, ...
15:57 < rxr> despite it's more expensive than "normal (crap) NetBooks", it's only half the price of more comparable Sony Vaio X or Apple MacBook Air
15:57 < capey> i should take a look at it at nearest shop, dont really have high hopes for it, since nokia isnt very well known as pc manufacturer
15:58 < rxr> I can not buy either, because I need something more compact (for traveling) and with mroe than 1 USB port than the stupid Air, and something with a digitial video out (that the Sony Vaio X lacks)
15:58 < rxr> I fail to understand how companies can still produce machines with just VGA
15:58 < rxr> it's the first PC from Nokia
15:59 < capey> yep, i know
15:59 < rxr> the upside from the Booklet are HDMI output (ok, need to hack on that to get it to work on Linux and OS X :-) and 8-12h battery life, ...
15:59 < rxr> woth things I need
15:59 < rxr> both ...
15:59 < rxr> actually I was waiting for such kind of a machine for 4y+
16:00 < rxr> too bad Apple did not produce something 12" PowerBook stylish, just a little ligher and updated to modern tech
16:00 < capey> i just wished they would have used 330 cpu
16:01 < rxr> the Air is plain stupudm too big for in-Airplane work, who needs 13" abroad? and then as thin to feel slippy in the hands, and then 1 USB port? Hello?
16:01 < capey> and perhaps nvidia ion
16:01 < rxr> well, 330 consumes way too much energy
16:01 < rxr> the Z series is ultra-low-voltage
16:01 < capey> yep, that's true
16:01 < capey> http://www.asrock.com/nettop/spec/ION%20330.asp
16:01 < rxr> so is the GMA500, with thanks to PowerVR (though lacking Linux and OS X driver, sigh) is also quite good
16:01 < capey> thats next one, i'll get, for media-pc
16:02 < rxr> the z series, + U15 chipset + big batter prings 8-12h batter life in this 1.2 (or so) kg Booklet
16:02 < rxr> I know just have to finalize some OS X driver modding and then get some code to drive the GMA500, especially HDMI-wise :-)
16:02 < capey> :)
16:04 < rxr> actually I find the state of PC portables really sick
16:04 < rxr> and it's a shame Apple only has so "strange" devices at the moment
16:04 < rxr> (which forced me to setup my first Hackintosh)
16:04 < rxr> despite using PowerPC since years just with T2 for the PPC bits from them
16:04 < rxr> (e.g. throwing money at them)
16:05 < rxr> dual-core G5, 8-way MacPro (Linux server) 2 MacBooks etc. so nearly all Apple here at ExactCODE
16:05 < rxr> but, damnit, I need an ultra-portable ...
16:05 < rxr> carrying my 15"
16:05 < rxr> MacBook Pro just makes by back hurt, ...
16:05 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2009-08-16/my-quest-for-a-usable-ntbk-continues/
16:07 < capey> :)
16:15 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2009-10-29/yes-we-can-mac-os-x-on-nokia-booklet-3g/
16:15 < rxr> my workplace the other day
16:16 < capey> damm, its small compared to others :)
16:16 < capey> how did you manage to put OS X to it?
16:16 < rxr> the usual hackintosh stuff
16:16 < capey> well, i guess i need to wait for your howto :)
16:16 < rxr> some PC like driver, Chameleon bootloader
16:16 < rxr> biggest non-Windows issue is the GMA500 graphic
16:17 < rxr> despitte that booth Linux and OSX run unaccelerated (which for my coding needs is not too much a problem) booth do not yet show the native res (which is 1280x720)
16:17 < rxr> but I hope to get that hacked together over the next days :-)
16:18 < capey> :)
16:45 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2009-10-31/network-streamed-whole-disk-backup/
17:51 < capey> heh, i found my years old helper app to help create pkgsel file
17:53 < capey> still working tho, could select packages by category or single package, c# tho, hmm... have to see if i could translate it to c++ qt or atleast rewrite it
17:54 < rxr> :-)
17:55 < rxr> we also need to update our from-freshmeat package creator to their new software version, server API, ...
18:18 < capey> now off for weekend fun :) cu next week :)
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18:18 < rxr> cu
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18:40 < CIA-38> rene * r34767 /trunk/package/base/glibc/ (any-cc-ok.patch.cross binutils-22.patch): * fixed glibc/configure for the new binutils version
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21:06 < cb88> my sparc32 build is compiling upuntill gcc again... since the glibc/binutils fix in svn
21:20 < cb88> I have error in building gcc ... trying to figure out what it is
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21:44 < CIA-38> rene * r34768 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh:
21:44 < CIA-38> * optimized initrd, do not include netfilter and wireless modules
21:44 < CIA-38> (beside space optimization this fixes disfunctional wireless
21:44 < CIA-38> modules such as ath9k, due lack of encryption and other support
21:44 < CIA-38> modules, despite potentially preventing NFS roots over the air)
22:17 < rxr> nice hardware feature detail on the Booklet: when the battery runs low the battery led turns red
22:17 < rxr> OS independant, pretty neat, especially when low-level hacking on a text terminal without UI battery level meter :-)
22:37 < koan> hm I have seen this more, my Dell laptop and Acer Aspire One have it too
22:37 < koan> but indeed, this is a nice feature :)
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