--- Log opened Sun Jan 31 00:00:33 2010 --- Day changed Sun Jan 31 2010 00:00 -!- digitaloktay [~pardus@dslb-084-056-212-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:01 -!- mtr [~michael@v29762.1blu.de] has joined #t2 00:05 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #t2 00:05 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+o ChanServ] by calvino.freenode.net 00:05 -!- Stealth [stealth@81.200.8.213] has quit [Changing host] 00:05 -!- Stealth [stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 01:23 -!- 94SAAAO6Z [~pardus@dslb-084-056-242-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Bin mo weg longer............ /exit hilft bei Kopfschmerzen oder hängt ein paar Poster von Merkel auf :)))] 01:30 -!- digitaloktay [~pardus@dslb-084-056-242-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 02:05 -!- digitaloktay [~pardus@dslb-084-056-242-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Bin mo weg longer............ /exit hilft bei Kopfschmerzen oder hängt ein paar Poster von Merkel auf :)))] 10:04 -!- mpp [~mpp@2001:470:d097:107:222:15ff:fe73:50e1] has joined #t2 10:14 -!- mpp [~mpp@2001:470:d097:107:222:15ff:fe73:50e1] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:27 -!- mpp [~mpp@2001:470:9a41:107:222:15ff:fe73:50e1] has joined #t2 11:17 < rxr> re 11:18 < mpp> moinsen 11:18 < mpp> switched my ipv6 tunnel to frankfurt 11:18 < mpp> :-) 11:21 < mpp> bbl 11:21 -!- mpp [~mpp@2001:470:9a41:107:222:15ff:fe73:50e1] has quit [Quit: good night - good fight] 11:39 < rxr> re 11:39 [Users #t2] 11:39 [@ChanServ] [ koan ] [ mjungwirth_] [ mtr] [ Stealth] 11:39 [ CIA-32 ] [ mjungwirth] [ mqueiros ] [ rxr] [ TobiX ] 11:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal] 11:41 < rxr> first test build on that new box: 11:41 < rxr> Error logs from default-8.0-trunk-generic-x86-64-linux: 11:41 < rxr> 248 builds total, 248 completed fine, 0 with errors, 0 to go. 12:14 < CIA-32> rene * r35433 /trunk/package/filesystem/dosfstools/dosfstools.desc: * updated dosfstools (3.0.8 -> 3.0.9) 12:38 < CIA-32> rene * r35434 /trunk/package/gnome2/gmime/gmime.desc: * updated gmime (2.4.13 -> 2.4.14) 13:23 -!- mpp [~mpp@2001:470:9a41:107:222:15ff:fe73:50e1] has joined #t2 13:24 < rxr> hi 13:24 < rxr> mpp: two quick questions while you're around 13:24 < mpp> shoot 13:24 < rxr> mpp: what do you think if we patch the default linux kernel log level to silent, so that not so much text noise is scrolling along on every boot? 13:25 < rxr> and the 2nd, do you use mysql on t2 ? 13:25 < mpp> @1 good idea 13:25 < mpp> @2 yes 13:25 < mpp> @1 just curious why 13:25 < rxr> the other day another company complaint that t2 did not install a some default database stuff 13:26 < rxr> do you think we shoudl do anything that mysql_install_db (or what it was called) installs? 13:26 < mpp> ah yes i also had to do some digging to get mysql up and running 13:26 < rxr> you certainly have other linux flavour experience there 13:26 < mpp> yep definetly 13:26 < mpp> so it will be usable out of the box 13:27 < rxr> @1 to make t2 look more sorted, friendly to newcomers 13:27 < mpp> @1 agreed 13:27 < mpp> @1 do it 13:27 < rxr> @1 that would mean we would need to get rid of this ugly udev group & user warning nonsense as well, sigh 13:27 < rxr> stuipd udec crap 13:27 < rxr> ok - thanks for your input 13:28 < mpp> thanx 13:28 < rxr> new amd system survived it's first night, test built t2 without a hickup 13:28 < mpp> great 13:28 < rxr> now i throw a memtest86 run onto i 13:28 < rxr> t 13:28 < mpp> price / performance with amd is always cool 13:29 < rxr> yeah, I need it for the less virtualization overhead of it 13:29 < rxr> 10 years ago I also mostly went for AMD 13:29 < rxr> (beside some other esoteric IDT Winchip and Cyrix stuff :-) 13:29 < mpp> :-) LOL 13:29 < mpp> yeah i know 13:30 < mpp> could you also have a dns AAAA pointer for dl2.t2-project.org 13:30 < mpp> would be nice 13:31 < rxr> AAAA was what? 13:32 < rxr> a 13:32 < rxr> ipv6 13:32 < rxr> I can certainly have anything added there, ... 13:34 < mpp> 2001:470:1f0a:dcb::2 13:34 < mpp> :-) 13:34 < mpp> a little ipv6 promotion would be nice 13:35 < mpp> ipv6 has the advantage that you can host zillions of http + https services on one box 13:35 < mpp> # /64 addr space 13:36 < rxr> yeah, brought some ipv6 book some 8 years or so ago ... 13:36 < mpp> we could go for another domain prefix like ipv6.t2-project.org with only AAAA record... 13:36 < mpp> dito 13:37 < rxr> too bad the ISPs do not get their act together 13:37 < rxr> only care about streaming TV to the homes, ... 13:37 < mpp> true 13:37 < mpp> ipv6 is 99% hazzle free 13:37 < rxr> guess the ipv6 domain stuff would only make sense when we would offer all services, regular homepage, svn there, too, hm? 13:37 < mpp> hierarchical subnetting makes admin life breezy 13:38 < mpp> you're probably right 13:38 < mpp> personally i can recommend www.he.net 13:38 < mpp> they have a pop in frankfurt 13:38 < rxr> what would we gain if we add a AAAA ptr to just the dl2 mirror ? 13:38 < mpp> ipv6 is somewhat faster in terms of latency 13:39 < mpp> besides that i just wanted to promote a bit ipv6 13:39 < mpp> that's all 13:39 < mpp> transition to ipv6 is on the rise .... 13:40 < mpp> so why not 13:40 < rxr> yeah, so far so clear, but what would this single aaaa ptr bring? 13:40 < rxr> when one downloads / visits with a browser on a ipv6 ready subnset one woudl get the ipv6 address and routing, hm? 13:40 < mpp> yes 13:40 < rxr> without it, right now, just the ipv4 fallback tunnel I assume 13:40 < mpp> ipv6 enabled clients would go over ipv6 13:41 < mpp> correct 13:41 < mpp> so no harm in terms of availability 13:41 < mpp> http://tunnelbroker.net/usage/index.php 13:41 < rxr> oh, btw. your mirror misses the last rc test releases 13:42 < mpp> i noticed 13:42 < mpp> cron gives me the creeps 13:42 < rxr> and, I'd suggest we change syncing, I push the changes at our regularly scheduled, nightly all-mirror-sync 13:42 < mpp> it's **** ugly 13:42 < rxr> yeah, agree 13:42 < rxr> but anyway, I'd like to get all mirrors more in sync, and would liek to push 13:42 < rxr> preferable rsync over ssh 13:42 < mpp> yes i know 13:43 < mpp> i'm not familiar with ssh lockdown 13:43 < mpp> that is the only reason why 13:43 < rxr> with lockdown you mean? 13:43 < mpp> i'll have to dig into the ssh basics to setup up a propper account for pushing 13:43 < mpp> ssh login need's to be restricted 13:44 < rxr> you mean so that I do not have local shell access? 13:44 < mpp> yep 13:44 < rxr> I guess SHELL=/usr/bin/rsync would be sufficient for this 13:44 < rxr> I once digged it up, think that worked 13:44 < rxr> or something like that 13:44 < mpp> then let's check right now 13:44 < mpp> what user name 13:45 < mpp> i would also restrict the user@ip to have some piece of mind 13:51 < CIA-32> rene * r35435 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.37.6 -> 2.4.37.7) 13:51 < CIA-32> rene * r35436 /trunk/package/base/ (linux24/99-quiet.patch linux26/99-quiet.patch): * make the T2 default bootup more clean and mean 14:07 < CIA-32> rene * r35437 /trunk/package/base/readline/readline.desc: * updated readline (6.1 -> 6.1-001) 14:11 < CIA-32> rene * r35438 /trunk/package/shells/bash/bash.desc: * updated bash (4.1 -> 4.1-002) 15:01 < rxr> http://t2-project.org/packages/rsync.html 15:16 < mpp> what about rsync ? 15:20 -!- mpp [~mpp@2001:470:9a41:107:222:15ff:fe73:50e1] has quit [Quit: good night - good fight] 16:33 -!- mpp [~mpp@2001:470:9a41:107:222:15ff:fe73:50e1] has joined #t2 16:33 < rxr> hi mpp 16:33 < mpp> hey 16:33 < rxr> not so good news 16:33 < mpp> go on 16:33 < rxr> found out rsync as shell does not work 16:33 < mpp> so what do we do know 16:34 < rxr> because ssh calls it with -c as first argument, and all the others (the rsync client supplies remoteely) as arg2 16:34 < rxr> like "-c", "-P -a -r . the-dir-to-the-files" 16:34 < rxr> we could ask LMJ when he is in IRC what he setup on the other t2 mirror 16:35 < mpp> good idea 16:35 < rxr> maybe something liek this limited remote shell thing 16:35 < rxr> I found on the web other using "ugly" wrapper scripts checking if the arg is rsync 16:35 < rxr> do not find that too secure, elegant 16:35 < mpp> can't we chroot the user to his home dir ? 16:35 < rxr> it's a pity, really thought to remeber it was that easy ... 16:36 < mpp> tell me about it 16:36 < mpp> i'll dig for antoher solution in the mean time 16:36 < rxr> there was some resource restrict or so remote shell thing for this 16:36 < rxr> and ugly scripts 16:37 < rxr> would not recomment those script based echecking, though 16:37 < mpp> http://www.nrel.colostate.edu/projects/irc/public/Documents/KnowledgeBase/HowTo_SSH_DSA_Key.htm 16:37 < mpp> i think that's what we need 16:37 < mpp> i'll re-read 16:38 < rxr> using a script, ... 16:39 < rxr> Appendix A: File restrict-to-rsync 16:39 < mpp> http://notes.endnode.se/2009/07/restricted-backups-using-rsync/ 16:39 < rxr> before it is just plain-old rsync usage 16:39 < mpp> yep 16:39 < mpp> the later one does the trick we need ... 16:39 < rxr> sometimes unix stuff simply sucks 16:39 < mpp> agreed 16:39 < mpp> craptastic b**sh** 16:40 < mpp> the authorized_keys solution 16:40 < mpp> looks good 16:40 < mpp> if you have minute 16:40 < mpp> we could give a last try for today 16:40 < mpp> ? 16:40 < rxr> won't work 16:41 < mpp> why is that ? 16:41 < rxr> it hardcodes the sync pathes 16:41 < rxr> we might update every know and then for new t2 version numbers 16:41 < rxr> also one would need at least 3 entreies right now due to 7.0, 8.0, binaries 16:41 < rxr> don't know if 3 lines with the same key would even work 16:42 < rxr> this all is so fishy 16:42 < rxr> just because sshd invokes all in -c 2x" 2y" 16:42 < mpp> i see 16:42 < rxr> let's ask LMJ the next time he is here what he did 16:42 < rxr> we can wait another day or two :-) 16:43 < mpp> k 16:43 < mpp> have a nice one .... ;-) 16:43 < rxr> cu 16:43 -!- mpp [~mpp@2001:470:9a41:107:222:15ff:fe73:50e1] has quit [Quit: good night - good fight] 16:55 < CIA-32> rene * r35439 /trunk/package/base/atop/atop.desc: * updated atoppatch-kernel (2.6.28 -> 2.6.31), finally, ... !!! 17:01 -!- mpp [~mpp@2001:470:9a41:107:222:15ff:fe73:50e1] has joined #t2 18:05 -!- mpp [~mpp@2001:470:9a41:107:222:15ff:fe73:50e1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06 -!- digitaloktay [~pardus@dslb-084-056-237-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 20:49 -!- LMJ [~serwou@laf31-4-82-236-42-164.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 21:41 < rxr> hi LMJ 22:06 < CIA-32> rene * r35440 /trunk/package/base/eglibc/eglibc.conf: * re-align eglibc indentation, add ports add-on to the old, linuxthread config, too 22:39 -!- digitaloktay [~pardus@dslb-084-056-237-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Bin mo weg longer............ /exit hilft bei Kopfschmerzen oder hängt ein paar Poster von Merkel auf :)))] --- Log closed Mon Feb 01 00:00:55 2010