T2 IRC Log: 2010-02-15

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--- Log opened Mon Feb 15 00:00:55 2010
06:44 -!- mjungwirth [~mj-firm-w@213.174.234.68] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
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09:20 < mpp> moinsen
09:30 < rxr> re
09:31 < rxr> mpp: thanks for the report, unfortunate that it is disabled
09:31 < rxr> i guess there is no remote KVM to the BIOS level to switch a potential BIOS menu entry?
09:34 < rxr> remove KVM as in Keyboard, Video, Mouse
09:35 < rxr> unfortunate that the KVM virtualization guys choose a so often used name, ...
09:39 < mpp> nope
09:39 < mpp> i guess this applies only to the eco servers
09:40 < mpp> but in doubt you could give them a call
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14:35 < CIA-32> rene * r35549 /trunk/target/embedded/build_image.sh: * remove embedded target squashfs endianess option, apparently removed with squashfs 4.0, fixed little-endian on-disk, now
14:37 < CIA-32> rene * r35556 /trunk/package/emulators/virtualbox/virtualbox.desc: * updated virtualbox (3.1.4 -> 3.1.2)
14:37 < CIA-32> rene * r35550 /trunk/package/x11/openbox/openbox.desc: * updated openbox (3.4.10 -> 3.4.11)
14:37 < CIA-32> rene * r35551 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgsf/libgsf.desc: * updated libgsf (1.14.16 -> 1.14.17)
14:37 < CIA-32> rene * r35553 /trunk/package/emulators/virtualbox/virtualbox.desc: * updated virtualbox (3.1.0 -> 3.1.4)
14:37 < CIA-32> rene * r35554 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-commander/gnome-commander.desc: * updated gnome-commander (1.2.8.4 -> 1.2.8.5)
14:37 < CIA-32> rene * r35552 /trunk/package/kde/akonadi/akonadi.desc: * updated akonadi (1.3.0 -> 1.3.1)
14:37 < CIA-32> rene * r35557 /trunk/package/emulators/virtualbox/virtualbox.desc: * updated virtualbox (3.1.2 -> 3.1.4)
14:37 < CIA-32> rene * r35555 /trunk/package/emulators/virt-manager/virt-manager.desc: * updated virt-manager (0.8.2 -> 0.8.3)
15:44 < CIA-32> aldas * r35558 /trunk/package/graphic/gle-graphics/gle-graphics.desc: * updated gle-graphics (4.1.2b -> 4.2.2)
16:37 < CIA-32> aldas * r35570 /trunk/package/kde/qt4/qt4.desc: * updated qt4 (4.6.1 -> 4.6.2)
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16:59 < SnortSafe> Hello rxr
17:01 < SnortSafe> Can you tell us how to get a list of all Libs (Deps) that a package will need to function correctly?
17:05 < rxr> package/*/*/*.cache gives an initial idea, the .cache files usually includes most to all optinal dependencies
17:06 < rxr> the t2 web list includes those .cache deps as well, if one wants to take a manual look with a web browser: http://t2-project.org/packages/exact-image.html
17:06 < rxr> ^- Dependencies (build time detected)
17:08 < CIA-32> rene * r35559 /trunk/package/develop/valgrind/glibc-2.11.patch: * hotfixed valgrind for glibc-2.11
17:10 < SnortSafe> Thank-you
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19:23 < rxr> pfff, watching the GCC optimizers is amazing, amusing
19:24 < rxr> funny how bad it still is after some 20++y or so of development
19:24 * rxr should switch to LLVM+Clang very very soon
19:40 -!- SnortSafe [SnortSafe@adsl-074-238-088-221.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #t2
19:42 < SnortSafe> rxr we are trying to install apache-2.2.14 in our embedded system, but we can't seem to redirect the build of apache2 to our r/w path (/mnt/smlog) etc.?
19:43 < rxr> don't you build on your development system before creating an image for the embedded target?
19:53 < SnortSafe> rxr this is at compile time, we can not change the --sysconfdir or --locastatedir we attemped to this change in apache's confiure file and repackage and build via t2, however the directories did not change. Can this be done throuh th t2 build script? ... Thanks
19:56 < rxr> how do you build that package? Build-Target, Build-Pkg, Emerge-Pkg ?
20:04 < SnortSafe> Build-Pkg apache
20:04 < rxr> inside the running embedded system ?
20:05 < SnortSafe> no, on a t2 development environment
20:06 < rxr> I can not really follow where you want apache installed to on which system, ...
20:06 < rxr> Build-Pkg builds into the running system, do you really want apache installed onto the box you use to build t2 ?
20:06 < rxr> in contrast to the sandbox you supposedly supply to your embedded target system ?
20:10 < SnortSafe> one directory apache builds it's config is /etc/*
20:10 < SnortSafe> the other is /var/* we need to change those
20:11 < rxr> your requirements sounds messy, .. hard to guess what you really want
20:12 < rxr> maybe just edit package/network/apache/apache.conf for your needs
20:12 < rxr> add --sysconfdir and --localstatedir # or so, according to your envisioned layout
20:13 < rxr> not the cleanest thing, but the best answer I can give you with the input you provided
20:13 < SnortSafe> the squash file system is read-only, therefore we must change directories in apache to avoid /var/* and /etc/*
20:14 < rxr> do you really want to change every package, in favor of making a squashfs filesystem layout that has the usual places read-write ?
20:16 < SnortSafe> yes, this has been decided upon since initial development 2 years ago
20:17 < rxr> does not sound like a reasonable choice, just producing more work than providing any good
20:26 < SnortSafe> we have to conform to this arrangment for the current project
20:31 < rxr> yeah, as I wrote above, just edit the package/*/apache/apache.conf to your liking
21:13 < SnortSafe> Created file outside allowed top-level dir: mnt/smlog/apache/lib/build/ltl . This is the Build error we got when I adjusted the build script as follows: #datadir="$localstatedir/lib"
21:13 < SnortSafe> datadir="/mnt/smlog/apache/lib"
21:38 < rxr> ah yes, an indeed useful sanity check of the t2 build scripts
21:38 < rxr> add var_append flistroot ' ' 'mnt' to your modified apache.conf
21:39 < rxr> that is a line like this:
21:39 < rxr> var_append flistroot ' ' 'vz'
21:39 < rxr> err
21:39 < rxr> var_append flistroot ' ' 'mnt'
21:57 < SnortSafe> added: var_append flistroot ' ' 'mnt' no more errors, but it did not build the files under mnt?
--- Log closed Tue Feb 16 00:00:55 2010