--- Log opened Wed Aug 18 00:00:49 2010 07:25 -!- mjungwirth [~mjungwirt@213.174.252.112] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 09:30 -!- Baldzius [~aldas@87-198-133-94.static.ptr.magnet.ie] has joined #t2 09:30 < Baldzius> moin 10:43 <@rxr> moin 10:43 <@rxr> hi Baldzius 10:48 < CIA-32> rene * r37319 /trunk/scripts/config.cache: 10:48 < CIA-32> "Dmitry S. Vasilchenko" : 10:48 < CIA-32> * added new, alternative /dev/urandom variabel to the default config.cache 10:52 < Baldzius> moin rxr 10:54 < Baldzius> rxr : could you sync irc log and package matrix 10:54 <@rxr> heh 10:54 <@rxr> you use it excessively, hm? 10:55 < Baldzius> rconstruct brought fonts issue before I left home 10:55 < Baldzius> want to see the log 10:56 < Baldzius> and yes, packages page is like my home page 10:57 < Baldzius> I hope it will be done automatically soon 10:57 <@rxr> up 10:57 < Baldzius> thanks 11:40 < rogermason> Hello. Anyone interested in adding TexLive as a replacement for teTeX? 11:48 < Baldzius> fine for me/never used anyway 11:49 < Baldzius> as long as it doesn't break anything big 11:52 < rogermason> There are (at least) two ways to do the install. First is to download and run a small installer. The other is to download some tarballs. The latters method is directed toward package maintainers. Do you care which I (try to) implement in T2? 11:54 < Baldzius> have no opinion on this :/ 11:55 < koan> isn't the second way the 'cleanest', most t2-like? 11:57 < rogermason> koan: yes, I suppose it is. It's just that the tug website says "Please don't download these from tug.org unless you know you need them." 12:02 < koan> does teTeX also have these two types of installations? and which one is used in the T2 package? 12:14 < rogermason> koan: tetex uses tarballs (only, as far as I can see). 12:43 -!- T-One [~T-One@194.183.141.238] has joined #t2 12:48 -!- old_gaffer [~quassel@211.238.240.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:49 -!- old_gaffer [~quassel@211.238.240.87] has joined #t2 13:38 -!- old_gaffer [~quassel@211.238.240.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:39 -!- old_gaffer [~quassel@211.238.240.87] has joined #t2 13:49 -!- old_gaffer_ [~quassel@211.238.240.87] has joined #t2 13:49 -!- old_gaffer [~quassel@211.238.240.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:05 <@rxr> re 16:10 < zod> hi there 16:10 < zod> i'm trying some "simple" steps with t2 and wanted to build a minimal set of packages and left most other options at there default values 16:11 < zod> but the build fails because of gcc ("cd pic; \n ar rc ./libiberty.a \n ./regex.o ./cplus-dem.o ./cp-demangle.o ./md5.o ./sha1.o ./alloca.o ./ .." 16:24 <@rxr> hm 16:24 <@rxr> where do you get to that? 16:27 < zod> while building gcc 16:27 <@rxr> hm never seen 16:31 < Baldzius> rxr: do you have kvm 0.12.5 update locally? 16:31 <@rxr> nope 16:31 < Baldzius> as we have qemu 0.12.5 16:31 < Baldzius> already 16:32 < Baldzius> you don't need qemu while compiling kvm? 16:34 <@rxr> no 16:34 <@rxr> kvm is a whole fork 16:34 <@rxr> the releases are totally freestanding 16:35 <@rxr> though the advanced kvm features are slowly merged back into qemu 16:35 <@rxr> so in some N years the kvm package may be history 16:41 < Baldzius> ic, so both packages will share some files if both are installed? 16:44 <@rxr> ehm, yes, a few 16:44 <@rxr> we could theoritically fix that 16:44 <@rxr> but I personally only use kvm (mostly) anyway 16:44 < Baldzius> got it, thanks 16:45 <@rxr> the shared files really could be fixed if we wanted to 16:45 < Baldzius> I wonder is there any packages still using sasl1? 16:45 * rxr too 16:45 < Baldzius> we could drop it and remove hack from sasl2 16:45 <@rxr> yeah, ... 16:45 <@rxr> grep cache files 16:45 < Baldzius> so no more stupid patches needed 16:45 <@rxr> also one of the net libs is such a case 16:46 < Baldzius> I will do clean ref 16:46 <@rxr> dnet or what it was 16:46 <@rxr> the one I mean is unmaintained for years 16:46 <@rxr> and we got a 1.1 version that some minor tools use 16:46 <@rxr> however, the biggest user would be snort, and snort needds and even older 1.0 release of it :-( 16:46 <@rxr> and yet, this is a years unmaintained package, sigh ! 16:46 < Baldzius> hm 16:46 < Baldzius> I'll check 16:47 <@rxr> snort.conf: 16:47 <@rxr> # snort-inline isn't building due to libnet 1.02a dependency 16:47 <@rxr> # see Note above 16:47 <@rxr> # var_append extraconfopt " " "--enable-inline" 16:47 <@rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/libnet.html 16:48 <@rxr> I find it pretty amazing that snort (which is crap code btw. anyway) relies on such an aging, unmainteined cruft for it's all so important inline IPS mode, ... 16:50 < CIA-32> rene * r37320 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * updated poppler (0.14.1 -> 0.14.2) 16:51 < CIA-32> rene * r37322 /trunk/package/filesystem/ceph/ceph.desc: * updated ceph (0.21 -> 0.21.1) 16:52 <@rxr> the "few" packages that have the non 2 sasl in their .cache are also mostly having the sasl2 in their cache 16:52 < CIA-32> rene * r37321 /trunk/package/perl/imager/imager.desc: * updated imager (0.75 -> 0.77) 16:52 < Baldzius> super 16:52 <@rxr> so maybe the few cache entries are actually false positives, checking some -config or so thing and then using the header and libs from the new flavour 16:52 <@rxr> hopefully 16:52 < Baldzius> going home 16:52 < Baldzius> cu tomorrow 16:52 <@rxr> heh 16:52 <@rxr> cu 16:53 -!- Baldzius [~aldas@87-198-133-94.static.ptr.magnet.ie] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:55 -!- T-One [~T-One@194.183.141.238] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:18 < CIA-32> rene * r37324 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc: * updated dovecot (1.2.13 -> 2.0.0) 17:18 < CIA-32> rene * r37323 /trunk/package/network/dbus-glib/dbus-glib.desc: * updated dbus-glib (0.86 -> 0.88) 17:29 -!- mqueiros [~mqueiros@a81-84-220-211.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #t2 18:03 < koan> ./scripts/Config: line 124: enable: cannot open shared object src/luabash.so: src/luabash.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 18:03 < koan> I get this when I want to execute Config 18:05 <@rxr> yeah need to fix that 18:05 <@rxr> happens when the config tools are rebuild while the build is in a later stage 18:07 < koan> so how do I revert Config to a working state? 18:07 <@rxr> I think stop build, scripts/cleanup and the scripts/Config works 18:09 < koan> ok now luabash.so is rebuilt and works, thanks 18:12 <@rxr> I should really track and fix it 18:13 <@rxr> the config stuff should only run in the native stage, ... 18:13 <@rxr> actually you are one of the first to note this, I guess most build do not change the config or so while a build is running 18:13 <@rxr> so I know this mostly by my own power-use of editing wildly while builds are running, ... :-) 18:13 < koan> :-) 18:21 <@rxr> damn 18:21 <@rxr> on my G5 X won't start anymore, just did the other day 18:21 <@rxr> complining about kernel driver using the card already, guess nouveau and it's ne friends :-( 18:21 <@rxr> damn, just used to work until some days ago 18:22 < koan> nouveau still doesn't build here, that's already since a few days 18:22 <@rxr> yes, we need to update it 18:22 <@rxr> it's an old snapshow 18:26 <@rxr> guess time to Emerge git on the G5, ... 19:03 -!- aloof [~kjj@pool-96-225-218-254.ptldor.fios.verizon.net] has joined #t2 19:07 < CIA-32> rene * r37325 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-nouveau/xf86-video-nouveau.desc: * updated xf86-video-nouveau (2009-12-28 -> 2010-08-15) 19:09 <@rxr> stops on autoconf glibberish on the g5 though 19:09 <@rxr> will hunt another day 19:47 < CIA-32> rene * r37326 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr/ (pkg_linux26_pre.conf pkg_linux26_pre.conf.disabled): * disable vdr/pk_linux26_pre glue, fails for me for some time 19:50 < CIA-32> rene * r37327 /trunk/package/ (audio/esound/devfs.patch.disabled filesystem/devfsd/): * removed some devfsd and an already disbaled devfs.patch, there comes a time to say goodby 19:53 < CIA-32> rene * r37328 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * removed some more devfsd related config glue 19:53 <@rxr> baldzius will fall in love with those ones :-) I really know it!!! 19:53 <@rxr> may win the mr propper ward with those revs 20:00 <@rxr> aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! 20:00 <@rxr> ah whatever, ... 20:05 < CIA-32> rene * r37329 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/ (mkinitrd.desc mkinitrd.sh): 20:05 < CIA-32> * updated mkinitrd (2005-12-26 -> 2010-08-18), copy all modprobe.* 20:05 < CIA-32> files, not just the very new modprobe.d directory 20:10 <@rxr> heh, cool, the "Snow Leopard Graphis Update" comse to my aging MacBookPro3,1 - I hope it also improves a thing :-) 20:14 <@rxr> ok, at least it does not yet feel slower :-/ 20:17 <@rxr> too bad I have nothing with fps to meassure, hope the Terminal, Xcode scroll faster :-) 20:54 < koan> rxr: I created a rootfs/etc/skel/.xinitrc in my target directory, and I installed the resulting ISO, but the file isn't in /etc/skel, did I forget a step? or does this only work with the live CD? --- Log closed Thu Aug 19 00:00:49 2010