T2 IRC Log: 2010-09-30
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--- Log opened Thu Sep 30 00:00:49 2010
01:33 < keinek1> hey is anybody out there?
01:55 < orici> nope
01:58 < keinek1> :P
01:58 < keinek1> orici: can you help me?
01:58 < keinek1> the error is very very locate.
01:59 < keinek1> when boot the live... said many errors of udev said: create_floppy_Devices[3163]: specified group "floppy" unknown
01:59 < keinek1> and many many other error from udev.
02:00 < keinek1> perhaps udev dont compile well in ubuntu, but all compilation was fine.
02:01 < keinek1> now i will download the minimal 486 iso from web...
02:01 < keinek1> i think is imposible compile a sde from another guest system, i can do that...
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12:54 < CIA-32> rene * r37735 /trunk/package/xorg/libdrm/libdrm.desc: * updated libdrm (2.4.21 -> 2.4.22)
13:01 < rogermason> moin
13:03 < CIA-32> rene * r37736 /trunk/package/develop/apr-util/apr-util.conf:
13:03 < CIA-32> Jan Rovins:
13:03 < CIA-32> * fixed apr-util for some combinations of host vs. target $libdir
13:04 < rogermason> Is there a means of removing packages from a build in the build/ directory?
13:04 <@rxr> as in uninstalling?
13:04 <@rxr> mine -rf -R buuild/..../ pkg
13:05 < rogermason> Thanks.
13:07 < rogermason> (Yesterday I decided to add regexxer to my x86 build, but it has huge dependencies and I lost interest part way through)
13:08 <@rxr> you can install the isos as it is
13:09 <@rxr> and just Emerge whatever you may need later?
13:13 < rogermason> yes. That is a better way if something may only be needed on a subset of the machines to be installed.
13:28 <@rxr> you install to many?
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13:46 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-32] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ Stealth]
13:46 [@rxr ] [ keinek] [ mjungwirth] [ orici ]
13:46 [ ch172 ] [ koan ] [ mqueiros ] [ rogermason]
13:46 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
13:46 < keinek> hi
13:46 < keinek> is anybody out there?
13:47 < keinek> i was testing t2 stable... but i think that i found my problem.
13:47 < keinek> when i compiling t2 from debian or ubuntu
13:47 < keinek> udev compile fine, but dont work at boot.
13:48 < keinek> is posible that something of debian or ubuntu guest system still there?
13:48 < keinek> on boot found groups like floppy....
13:48 < keinek> or i need create the groups myself...
13:48 < keinek> or... i really have this problem only when build from debian's system.
13:49 < keinek> now i am downloading a minimal 486 from your site.
13:49 < keinek> i will discover if the problem are there.
13:49 < keinek> if work fine, i will build the same cfg on t2 system.
13:49 < keinek> is anybody here?
13:49 < keinek> come on!
14:03 < keinek> ok...
14:03 < keinek> this is for anybody can see my message.
14:03 < keinek> in stable 8.0 udev fail
14:03 < keinek> the minimal 486 from web, fail too.
14:05 < keinek> hey please need help with that.
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15:14 <@rxr> re, back from lunch
15:33 < rogermason> rxr: 'you install to many?' Two so far: my x86 laptop and one x86 desktop.
15:47 <@rxr> 13:13 < rogermason> yes. That is a better way if something may only be needed on a subset of the machines to be installed.
15:47 <@rxr> got the impression you plan to install to many, many
16:40 < rogermason> Two _so_far_.
16:50 <@rxr> yeah got that, so maybe just try to install that ppc64 .iso on the G5 and continue from there?
17:13 < rogermason> yes. I only have one G5.
17:15 < rogermason> I'm working my way through some breakages on the G5 (compiling trunk on 8.0), but maybe I should just make a cd (or USB stick) and install what I have.
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18:13 < rogermason> I'm creating an iso on my g5 with -size 1024*1024, because texlive is around 996 MB. I can't put that image on a CD. Lets hope we can get a version of iso2stick to work with hfs.
18:14 <@rxr> now 2stick now?
18:14 <@rxr> err
18:14 <@rxr> 2stick now?
18:15 < rogermason> what are you asking?
18:16 <@rxr> if you want to work on that HFS+ PPC awawre iso2stick conversion now?
18:16 <@rxr> (or can install some optical media first)
18:18 < rogermason> OK. It might be worth doing the optical media first. However, I think -size is too big for CD.
18:19 <@rxr> yes, but DVD works :-)
18:19 < rogermason> using cdrecord?
18:19 <@rxr> yaboot and HFS hackery for iso2stick will be quite some effort, ...
18:19 <@rxr> cdrecord, wodim, I think I never had a problem burning dvd's with those
18:22 < rogermason> I've never written a dvd, only cd.
18:23 <@rxr> it's the same, not a single option different, ...
18:37 < rogermason> Is there any merit in copying the t2-trunk directory off the G5 before it gets overwritten? i.e., could I unpack it on the rebuilt machine and carry on working on the build?
18:40 <@rxr> theoretically you could
18:40 <@rxr> the cross compiler won't probably work any longer, though
18:40 <@rxr> due differenting native libraries
18:41 <@rxr> but sandbox stuff is supposed to build on, as long as you place it in exactly the same directory
18:41 < rogermason> but I was compiling on G5 for G5. Where does the cross-compiler fit in?
18:42 <@rxr> you won't need the cross compiler anyway
18:42 <@rxr> and when you wipe the build you get a fresh one built
18:42 <@rxr> that incompatibility comes from using another, probably much older, distribution
18:42 <@rxr> marginarlly different ABI, library versions, or entirely different if 32 vs. 64 bit
18:43 < rogermason> OK. maybe it is simpler just to keep the config dir and re-build everything else from scratch.
18:54 < rogermason> dvd booted without problems.
18:54 <@rxr> cool (puh)!
18:55 < rogermason> is it necessary to re-partition the hd? or can I just install over what is already there?
18:55 <@rxr> depends what the former distribution did there
18:55 <@rxr> what do you have on the disk?
18:55 < rogermason> T2 8.0
18:55 <@rxr> oh, you had t2 on it already?
18:55 <@rxr> ok, forgot that, ... heh
18:56 <@rxr> then you can just reuse it I suppose
18:56 < rogermason> yes. I used 8.0 to build trunk.
18:56 < rogermason> well, if it does not work I have not lost anything.
18:56 <@rxr> iForgot, thought you used whatever was on it before :-)
18:57 < rogermason> (gentoo) I tried but could not build T2 trunk.
18:57 < rogermason> i don't remember even this morning very clearly :-)
18:58 <@rxr> :-)
18:58 <@rxr> is that good or bad=
18:58 <@rxr> ? even
19:02 < rogermason> often bad :-(
19:56 < rogermason> got a kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt when starting eth0 from stone.
22:03 < rogermason> unfortunately, I can't log into the machine: the root password is not recognised.
22:04 < rogermason> I tried booting the dvd, mounting / then chrooting: chroot /dev/sda7 /mnt/target
22:04 < rogermason> however, when I then try yo set the password I get:
22:05 < rogermason> passwd: Module is unknown
22:05 < rogermason> passwd: password unchanged
22:05 < rogermason> looks like my build is bad.
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--- Log closed Fri Oct 01 00:00:49 2010
01:33 < keinek1> hey is anybody out there?
01:55 < orici> nope
01:58 < keinek1> :P
01:58 < keinek1> orici: can you help me?
01:58 < keinek1> the error is very very locate.
01:59 < keinek1> when boot the live... said many errors of udev said: create_floppy_Devices[3163]: specified group "floppy" unknown
01:59 < keinek1> and many many other error from udev.
02:00 < keinek1> perhaps udev dont compile well in ubuntu, but all compilation was fine.
02:01 < keinek1> now i will download the minimal 486 iso from web...
02:01 < keinek1> i think is imposible compile a sde from another guest system, i can do that...
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12:54 < CIA-32> rene * r37735 /trunk/package/xorg/libdrm/libdrm.desc: * updated libdrm (2.4.21 -> 2.4.22)
13:01 < rogermason> moin
13:03 < CIA-32> rene * r37736 /trunk/package/develop/apr-util/apr-util.conf:
13:03 < CIA-32> Jan Rovins
13:03 < CIA-32> * fixed apr-util for some combinations of host vs. target $libdir
13:04 < rogermason> Is there a means of removing packages from a build in the build/ directory?
13:04 <@rxr> as in uninstalling?
13:04 <@rxr> mine -rf -R buuild/..../ pkg
13:05 < rogermason> Thanks.
13:07 < rogermason> (Yesterday I decided to add regexxer to my x86 build, but it has huge dependencies and I lost interest part way through)
13:08 <@rxr> you can install the isos as it is
13:09 <@rxr> and just Emerge whatever you may need later?
13:13 < rogermason> yes. That is a better way if something may only be needed on a subset of the machines to be installed.
13:28 <@rxr> you install to many?
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13:46 [Users #t2]
13:46 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-32] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ Stealth]
13:46 [@rxr ] [ keinek] [ mjungwirth] [ orici ]
13:46 [ ch172 ] [ koan ] [ mqueiros ] [ rogermason]
13:46 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
13:46 < keinek> hi
13:46 < keinek> is anybody out there?
13:47 < keinek> i was testing t2 stable... but i think that i found my problem.
13:47 < keinek> when i compiling t2 from debian or ubuntu
13:47 < keinek> udev compile fine, but dont work at boot.
13:48 < keinek> is posible that something of debian or ubuntu guest system still there?
13:48 < keinek> on boot found groups like floppy....
13:48 < keinek> or i need create the groups myself...
13:48 < keinek> or... i really have this problem only when build from debian's system.
13:49 < keinek> now i am downloading a minimal 486 from your site.
13:49 < keinek> i will discover if the problem are there.
13:49 < keinek> if work fine, i will build the same cfg on t2 system.
13:49 < keinek> is anybody here?
13:49 < keinek> come on!
14:03 < keinek> ok...
14:03 < keinek> this is for anybody can see my message.
14:03 < keinek> in stable 8.0 udev fail
14:03 < keinek> the minimal 486 from web, fail too.
14:05 < keinek> hey please need help with that.
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15:14 <@rxr> re, back from lunch
15:33 < rogermason> rxr: 'you install to many?' Two so far: my x86 laptop and one x86 desktop.
15:47 <@rxr> 13:13 < rogermason> yes. That is a better way if something may only be needed on a subset of the machines to be installed.
15:47 <@rxr> got the impression you plan to install to many, many
16:40 < rogermason> Two _so_far_.
16:50 <@rxr> yeah got that, so maybe just try to install that ppc64 .iso on the G5 and continue from there?
17:13 < rogermason> yes. I only have one G5.
17:15 < rogermason> I'm working my way through some breakages on the G5 (compiling trunk on 8.0), but maybe I should just make a cd (or USB stick) and install what I have.
17:27 -!- mjungwirth2 [~mjungwirt@213.174.252.112] has joined #t2
18:13 < rogermason> I'm creating an iso on my g5 with -size 1024*1024, because texlive is around 996 MB. I can't put that image on a CD. Lets hope we can get a version of iso2stick to work with hfs.
18:14 <@rxr> now 2stick now?
18:14 <@rxr> err
18:14 <@rxr> 2stick now?
18:15 < rogermason> what are you asking?
18:16 <@rxr> if you want to work on that HFS+ PPC awawre iso2stick conversion now?
18:16 <@rxr> (or can install some optical media first)
18:18 < rogermason> OK. It might be worth doing the optical media first. However, I think -size is too big for CD.
18:19 <@rxr> yes, but DVD works :-)
18:19 < rogermason> using cdrecord?
18:19 <@rxr> yaboot and HFS hackery for iso2stick will be quite some effort, ...
18:19 <@rxr> cdrecord, wodim, I think I never had a problem burning dvd's with those
18:22 < rogermason> I've never written a dvd, only cd.
18:23 <@rxr> it's the same, not a single option different, ...
18:37 < rogermason> Is there any merit in copying the t2-trunk directory off the G5 before it gets overwritten? i.e., could I unpack it on the rebuilt machine and carry on working on the build?
18:40 <@rxr> theoretically you could
18:40 <@rxr> the cross compiler won't probably work any longer, though
18:40 <@rxr> due differenting native libraries
18:41 <@rxr> but sandbox stuff is supposed to build on, as long as you place it in exactly the same directory
18:41 < rogermason> but I was compiling on G5 for G5. Where does the cross-compiler fit in?
18:42 <@rxr> you won't need the cross compiler anyway
18:42 <@rxr> and when you wipe the build you get a fresh one built
18:42 <@rxr> that incompatibility comes from using another, probably much older, distribution
18:42 <@rxr> marginarlly different ABI, library versions, or entirely different if 32 vs. 64 bit
18:43 < rogermason> OK. maybe it is simpler just to keep the config dir and re-build everything else from scratch.
18:54 < rogermason> dvd booted without problems.
18:54 <@rxr> cool (puh)!
18:55 < rogermason> is it necessary to re-partition the hd? or can I just install over what is already there?
18:55 <@rxr> depends what the former distribution did there
18:55 <@rxr> what do you have on the disk?
18:55 < rogermason> T2 8.0
18:55 <@rxr> oh, you had t2 on it already?
18:55 <@rxr> ok, forgot that, ... heh
18:56 <@rxr> then you can just reuse it I suppose
18:56 < rogermason> yes. I used 8.0 to build trunk.
18:56 < rogermason> well, if it does not work I have not lost anything.
18:56 <@rxr> iForgot, thought you used whatever was on it before :-)
18:57 < rogermason> (gentoo) I tried but could not build T2 trunk.
18:57 < rogermason> i don't remember even this morning very clearly :-)
18:58 <@rxr> :-)
18:58 <@rxr> is that good or bad=
18:58 <@rxr> ? even
19:02 < rogermason> often bad :-(
19:56 < rogermason> got a kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt when starting eth0 from stone.
22:03 < rogermason> unfortunately, I can't log into the machine: the root password is not recognised.
22:04 < rogermason> I tried booting the dvd, mounting / then chrooting: chroot /dev/sda7 /mnt/target
22:04 < rogermason> however, when I then try yo set the password I get:
22:05 < rogermason> passwd: Module is unknown
22:05 < rogermason> passwd: password unchanged
22:05 < rogermason> looks like my build is bad.
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--- Log closed Fri Oct 01 00:00:49 2010