T2 IRC Log: 2010-10-27
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--- Log opened Wed Oct 27 00:00:58 2010
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12:07 < rogermas`> hello.
12:12 < rogermas`> I have a question about dependencies. I added gimp to my config and ran Build-target. Some dependencies were pulled in and built but gimp failed for lack of babl, then gegl then pygtk. However, all 3 are already in gimp.cache. I have added them to the config, but should they not have been built automatically as dependencies of gimp? (This is on trunk, by the way.)
12:25 < gw> Hi, It's been a while that I used the build system, but I'll try to help...
12:26 < gw> AFAIK all packages to be built must be marked as active
12:26 < gw> and it may be that you have to rerun the config script (but not sure about that)
12:27 < gw> And I don't think Build-target checks for dependencies...
12:28 < gw> Because T2 does not distinguish between optional and required dependencies.
12:29 < gw> I remember that it is a long outstanding thing (back from Rock) to implement a proper dependency handling, but no one ever made a good proposal how to best do it.
12:31 < gw> (On the other hand I never had the need for a dependency handling mechanism)
13:16 < rogermas`> gw: thank-you. But I'm left wondering what purpose is served by having a cache for each package.
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13:37 < rxr> moin
13:37 < rxr> hi gw
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13:42 < rxr> hi mjungwirth
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13:42 [@ChanServ] [ gw ] [ mjungwirth] [ orici ] [ rxr ]
13:42 [ CIA-29 ] [ koan] [ mtr ] [ rogermas`] [ Stealth]
13:42 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal]
13:45 < gw> rogermas: other scripts use this information. e.g. Emerge-Pkg
13:45 < gw> hi all
13:45 < mjungwirth> hi rxr
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16:50 [ DanielStonier] [ mjungwirth] [ rogermas`]
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17:20 < CIA-29> rene * r37876 /trunk/package/archiver/xz/ (xz-noclobber-lzma.patch xz.desc): * updated xz (4.999.9beta -> 5.0.0)
17:21 < CIA-29> rene * r37877 /trunk/package/xorg/libfs/libfs.desc: * updated libfs (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3)
17:22 < CIA-29> rene * r37878 /trunk/package/security/libgpg-error/libgpg-error.desc: * updated libgpg-error (1.9 -> 1.10)
17:23 < CIA-29> rene * r37879 /trunk/package/security/libksba/libksba.desc: * updated libksba (1.0.8 -> 1.1.0)
17:24 < CIA-29> rene * r37880 /trunk/package/contrib/directfb/directfb.desc: * updated directfb (1.4.6 -> 1.4.7)
17:24 < CIA-29> rene * r37881 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc: * updated dovecot (2.0.5 -> 2.0.6)
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--- Log closed Thu Oct 28 00:00:58 2010
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12:07 < rogermas`> hello.
12:12 < rogermas`> I have a question about dependencies. I added gimp to my config and ran Build-target. Some dependencies were pulled in and built but gimp failed for lack of babl, then gegl then pygtk. However, all 3 are already in gimp.cache. I have added them to the config, but should they not have been built automatically as dependencies of gimp? (This is on trunk, by the way.)
12:25 < gw> Hi, It's been a while that I used the build system, but I'll try to help...
12:26 < gw> AFAIK all packages to be built must be marked as active
12:26 < gw> and it may be that you have to rerun the config script (but not sure about that)
12:27 < gw> And I don't think Build-target checks for dependencies...
12:28 < gw> Because T2 does not distinguish between optional and required dependencies.
12:29 < gw> I remember that it is a long outstanding thing (back from Rock) to implement a proper dependency handling, but no one ever made a good proposal how to best do it.
12:31 < gw> (On the other hand I never had the need for a dependency handling mechanism)
13:16 < rogermas`> gw: thank-you. But I'm left wondering what purpose is served by having a cache for each package.
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13:37 < rxr> moin
13:37 < rxr> hi gw
13:42 -!- mjungwirth [~mjungwirt@213.174.234.68] has joined #t2
13:42 < rxr> hi mjungwirth
13:42 [Users #t2]
13:42 [@ChanServ] [ gw ] [ mjungwirth] [ orici ] [ rxr ]
13:42 [ CIA-29 ] [ koan] [ mtr ] [ rogermas`] [ Stealth]
13:42 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal]
13:45 < gw> rogermas: other scripts use this information. e.g. Emerge-Pkg
13:45 < gw> hi all
13:45 < mjungwirth> hi rxr
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16:50 [@ChanServ ] [ gw ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ]
16:50 [ CIA-29 ] [ koan ] [ orici ] [ Stealth]
16:50 [ DanielStonier] [ mjungwirth] [ rogermas`]
16:50 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
17:20 < CIA-29> rene * r37876 /trunk/package/archiver/xz/ (xz-noclobber-lzma.patch xz.desc): * updated xz (4.999.9beta -> 5.0.0)
17:21 < CIA-29> rene * r37877 /trunk/package/xorg/libfs/libfs.desc: * updated libfs (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3)
17:22 < CIA-29> rene * r37878 /trunk/package/security/libgpg-error/libgpg-error.desc: * updated libgpg-error (1.9 -> 1.10)
17:23 < CIA-29> rene * r37879 /trunk/package/security/libksba/libksba.desc: * updated libksba (1.0.8 -> 1.1.0)
17:24 < CIA-29> rene * r37880 /trunk/package/contrib/directfb/directfb.desc: * updated directfb (1.4.6 -> 1.4.7)
17:24 < CIA-29> rene * r37881 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc: * updated dovecot (2.0.5 -> 2.0.6)
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--- Log closed Thu Oct 28 00:00:58 2010