T2 IRC Log: 2011-02-14
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--- Log opened Mon Feb 14 00:00:06 2011
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10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38669 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.7.3.5 -> 1.7.4.1)
10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38671 /trunk/package/perl/mod_perl/mod_perl.desc: * updated mod_perl (2.0.4 -> 2.0.5)
10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38670 /trunk/package/develop/patchutils/patchutils.desc: * updated patchutils (0.3.1 -> 0.3.2)
10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38672 /trunk/package/security/nmap/nmap.desc: * updated nmap (5.50 -> 5.51)
10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38673 /trunk/package/network/bluez/bluez.desc: * updated bluez (4.87 -> 4.88)
10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38674 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.desc: * updated busybox (1.18.2 -> 1.18.3)
10:09 < CIA-15> rene * r38675 /trunk/package/shells/bash/bash.desc: * updated bash (4.1-009 -> 4.2-000)
10:13 < CIA-15> rene * r38676 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.desc: * updated udev (165 -> 166)
10:13 < CIA-15> rene * r38677 /trunk/package/network/xmlrpc-c/xmlrpc-c.desc: * updated xmlrpc-c (1.06.41 -> 1.06.42)
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11:42 < rogermas`> morning
11:44 < rogermas`> I notice running 35.7 that the wacom kernel module is not built (it is present in 34.1). Where can I configure that?
11:44 < rxr> t2 should enable anything it can as module
11:45 < rxr> additional quirks, e.g. "force on" go into architecture/share/ker*
11:45 < rxr> e.g. kernel-common.conf.m4
11:46 < rxr> of course there are other way of kernel config, target's can define their config, and you could use scripts/Config and enable custom kernel config and add the WACOM, but I think it would be better to tweak the defaults to build the module as needed
11:47 < rogermas`> Thanks. I assume that kernel-common.conf.m4 is used when running Emerge as well as Build-target
11:48 < rxr> yes, it is used for the "automatic configuration with as many options as kernel modules" default linux kernel config builds
11:50 < rogermas`> Another question, hope you don't mind. Is it possible to build more than one kernel (different versions) using Build-target?
11:51 < rxr> easily only by copying the kernel package under a different name, e.g. linux24, linux26 linux26mips, ...
11:51 < rxr> target can apply script glue to build really different versions under one name though
11:52 < rxr> but most targets only go for one carefully reviewed version with maintenance anyway, think DVR, cellphone, etc.
11:54 < rogermas`> I was thinking of the situation on my imac, where 36.3 does not boot. It would be good to have another version to fall back on.
12:14 < rxr> when you emerge or update from binares the old kernel files stay around
12:14 < rxr> so when a user installed with a given working kernel he will kep that files maintained inside the linux26 kernel package even on update
12:15 < rxr> until they are deleted manually
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12:49 < rogermas`> Ah good. Thanks.
17:07 < rogermas`> If I want to install a package from a *.tar.bz2 file, all I need to do is copy the tarball to the target machine and unpack it in / right?
17:25 < rxr> you can, it is better to use the mine utility though
17:25 < rxr> for example it will merge the flists
17:25 < rxr> mine -i tarball # IIRC
17:25 < rxr> tar will just override the old flist
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18:40 < rogermas`> I just tried mine -i with gimp-2.6.8.tar.bz2 (after running mine -r on the target machine). When I try to start gim I get a message that gimp can't run with a libgimp verion other than its own. I'm guessing mine -r did not remove all the gimp files.
18:42 < rxr> does an ldconfig help?
18:42 < rxr> running it, ...
18:42 < rxr> gimp was build with the same $prefix ?
19:16 < rogermas`> yes, same prefix
19:17 < rogermas`> ldconfig does not help
19:24 < rxr> does it work on box 1 then?
19:24 < rxr> maybe some gimp build issue?
20:13 < rogermas`> I'm trying to find a version of gimp that does not crash when opening a file. I was hoping to avoid having to Build-Target different gimp versions then burn a usb stick.
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10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38669 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.7.3.5 -> 1.7.4.1)
10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38671 /trunk/package/perl/mod_perl/mod_perl.desc: * updated mod_perl (2.0.4 -> 2.0.5)
10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38670 /trunk/package/develop/patchutils/patchutils.desc: * updated patchutils (0.3.1 -> 0.3.2)
10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38672 /trunk/package/security/nmap/nmap.desc: * updated nmap (5.50 -> 5.51)
10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38673 /trunk/package/network/bluez/bluez.desc: * updated bluez (4.87 -> 4.88)
10:08 < CIA-15> rene * r38674 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.desc: * updated busybox (1.18.2 -> 1.18.3)
10:09 < CIA-15> rene * r38675 /trunk/package/shells/bash/bash.desc: * updated bash (4.1-009 -> 4.2-000)
10:13 < CIA-15> rene * r38676 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.desc: * updated udev (165 -> 166)
10:13 < CIA-15> rene * r38677 /trunk/package/network/xmlrpc-c/xmlrpc-c.desc: * updated xmlrpc-c (1.06.41 -> 1.06.42)
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11:42 < rogermas`> morning
11:44 < rogermas`> I notice running 35.7 that the wacom kernel module is not built (it is present in 34.1). Where can I configure that?
11:44 < rxr> t2 should enable anything it can as module
11:45 < rxr> additional quirks, e.g. "force on" go into architecture/share/ker*
11:45 < rxr> e.g. kernel-common.conf.m4
11:46 < rxr> of course there are other way of kernel config, target's can define their config, and you could use scripts/Config and enable custom kernel config and add the WACOM, but I think it would be better to tweak the defaults to build the module as needed
11:47 < rogermas`> Thanks. I assume that kernel-common.conf.m4 is used when running Emerge as well as Build-target
11:48 < rxr> yes, it is used for the "automatic configuration with as many options as kernel modules" default linux kernel config builds
11:50 < rogermas`> Another question, hope you don't mind. Is it possible to build more than one kernel (different versions) using Build-target?
11:51 < rxr> easily only by copying the kernel package under a different name, e.g. linux24, linux26 linux26mips, ...
11:51 < rxr> target can apply script glue to build really different versions under one name though
11:52 < rxr> but most targets only go for one carefully reviewed version with maintenance anyway, think DVR, cellphone, etc.
11:54 < rogermas`> I was thinking of the situation on my imac, where 36.3 does not boot. It would be good to have another version to fall back on.
12:14 < rxr> when you emerge or update from binares the old kernel files stay around
12:14 < rxr> so when a user installed with a given working kernel he will kep that files maintained inside the linux26 kernel package even on update
12:15 < rxr> until they are deleted manually
12:30 -!- digitaloktay [~arch@mvl.eventualis.org] has quit [Quit: Bin mol weg longer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]
12:49 < rogermas`> Ah good. Thanks.
17:07 < rogermas`> If I want to install a package from a *.tar.bz2 file, all I need to do is copy the tarball to the target machine and unpack it in / right?
17:25 < rxr> you can, it is better to use the mine utility though
17:25 < rxr> for example it will merge the flists
17:25 < rxr> mine -i tarball # IIRC
17:25 < rxr> tar will just override the old flist
17:44 -!- T-One [~T-One@194.183.141.242] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
18:40 < rogermas`> I just tried mine -i with gimp-2.6.8.tar.bz2 (after running mine -r on the target machine). When I try to start gim I get a message that gimp can't run with a libgimp verion other than its own. I'm guessing mine -r did not remove all the gimp files.
18:42 < rxr> does an ldconfig help?
18:42 < rxr> running it, ...
18:42 < rxr> gimp was build with the same $prefix ?
19:16 < rogermas`> yes, same prefix
19:17 < rogermas`> ldconfig does not help
19:24 < rxr> does it work on box 1 then?
19:24 < rxr> maybe some gimp build issue?
20:13 < rogermas`> I'm trying to find a version of gimp that does not crash when opening a file. I was hoping to avoid having to Build-Target different gimp versions then burn a usb stick.
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--- Log closed Tue Feb 15 00:00:06 2011