T2 IRC Log: 2011-03-23

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--- Log opened Wed Mar 23 00:00:06 2011
04:40 -!- Severian [~ralph@ppp-70-251-80-72.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #t2
04:42 < Severian> Howdy. I want to try t2. I started with http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/installintro.html and I don't see any indication of the status. Is there something I can check after I rebooted in the installed machine?
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10:04 < rxr> Severian: what do you mean with status?
10:05 < Severian> At the end of the quick install document, it talks about the status of the installation. I was trying to figure out if my install went well.
10:06 < Severian> I ended up starting over and doing the install over an Ubuntu server install.
10:07 < Severian> I may do it again over the t2 install iso, so I'd still like to know.
10:12 < rxr> well, the "status" is meant to be package installing scrolling by
10:20 < CIA-33> rene * r38846 /trunk/package/gnome2/clutter/clutter.desc:
10:20 < CIA-33> Gerardo DI Iorio :
10:20 < CIA-33> * updated clutter (1.4.2 -> 1.6.10)
10:27 < CIA-33> rene * r38847 /trunk/package/develop/talloc/ (. talloc.cache talloc.desc):
10:27 < CIA-33> Gerardo Di Iorio :
10:27 < CIA-33> * added talloc (2.0.5) - A hierarchical, reference counted memory pool system with destructors
10:41 -!- DelphiWorld [~VoIpGuy@41.200.29.85] has joined #t2
10:42 < DelphiWorld> hi guys!
10:42 * DelphiWorld is super happy with T2.
10:42 < DelphiWorld> if someone arround, please how to create my own iso? my t2 system is built.
10:46 < rxr> hi
10:46 < rxr> well, normally you create an ISO from a whole target build, that is a fresh whole system build from the T2 sandbox
10:46 < rxr> I guess you reffer to a single workstation, e.g. Emerge'ed with additional packages?
10:47 < rxr> if you have built a whole target, then you just run the Create-ISO scripts
10:47 < DelphiWorld> rxr, i see it generating it, but where i can found it dear please?
10:49 < Severian> DelphiWorld, The find command should give you your answer.
10:49 < CIA-33> rene * r38848 /trunk/package/xorg/xproto/xproto.desc: * updated xproto (7.0.20 -> 7.0.21)
10:49 < DelphiWorld> Severian, you're allready knowne here... may i remember you please?
10:49 < DelphiWorld> Severian: this nickname is widely knowne in a voip situation or something like :)
10:49 < Severian> I am not just being snarky here. I have the build process going now, and I won't get to the build iso stage for a day or two, I expect.
10:50 < DelphiWorld> Severian, got it allready, in the iso folder
10:50 < Severian> I do get on the asterisk and vuc channels. I doubt I am widely known, but sure you can remember my account. name.
10:51 < DelphiWorld> Severian: lol, :)
10:51 < Severian> I also was in a couple of other voip channels, like the one for askozia. I recognize your account name from somewhere, too.
10:51 < DelphiWorld> ok, except of iso, can i create a ".img" package?
10:52 < DelphiWorld> Severian, i was in freeswitch channel
10:53 < Severian> freeswitch, that sounds right. I am still trying to get a freeswitch setup I like. I think freeswitch seems like a better choice in lots of ways. But, I currently use PBXinaflash from the nerdvittles guy. It works quite well.
10:54 < DelphiWorld> Severian, if something work well for you, just keep it :)
10:54 < DelphiWorld> Severian, my T2 build would by a freeswitch img
10:54 < Severian> I know t2 can create img files to copy to a drive. I just don't have the pointer to tell you how exactly. Aszozia is built with T2 and it's end result is an iso and an img file both.
10:56 < Severian> DelphiWorld. There are things I want to do to embed Freeswitch that PBXinaFlsh is not suited for. So, the quest goes on. But, for now, I have a working VOIP setup while I experiment. I even use google voice as the provider and that is pretty neat.
10:57 < DelphiWorld> Severian: :)
10:57 < DelphiWorld> right now my first cd is built, i'm downloading the iso
11:04 < Severian> DelphiWorld, see page 72 of the t2 manual. It describes installing to a disk directly.
11:05 < DelphiWorld> Severian: surely i'm reading
11:06 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/talloc.html
11:12 < DelphiWorld> Severian, what chapeter please?
11:13 < Severian> 7
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11:13 < Severian> in your pdf reader, you should see it as a 105 page document. Go to page 72
11:15 < DelphiWorld> Severian: i'm reading it online, i hate pdf
11:16 < Severian> ahh. I don't like pdf either. They should do it as an odt.
11:17 < DelphiWorld> Severian: nether... i honestly love .chm
11:17 < DelphiWorld> Severian: because of my disability
11:26 < DelphiWorld> Severian, there's no build target to produce a .img?
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11:26 < Severian> I think there may be, but I did not see it.
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11:28 < DelphiWorld> Severian: isn't the embedded build produce a img?
11:30 < Severian> I don't understand the question. It is often true that an embedded build results in an img file. But, there is no script in the basic t2 that I see that does that. There is not Build_Embedded or similar. I don't know quite what you are asking.
11:32 < DelphiWorld> lol Severian i liked "tlx" tini command line linux
11:34 < Severian> Tiny Core is interesting, but I don't know tlx linux.
11:36 < DelphiWorld> Severian, look for it in the t2 build system config script/Config
11:54 * DelphiWorld has a botyfull day today
12:05 < CIA-33> rene * r38849 /trunk/package/network/dante/dante.desc: * updated dante (1.2.2 -> 1.2.3)
12:06 < DelphiWorld> Severian, see this output:
12:06 < DelphiWorld> *> Corrected ./libjava/libltdl/ltmain.sh
12:06 < DelphiWorld> *> Corrected ./libtool.m4
12:06 < DelphiWorld> !> their respective hosting sites as well as at
12:06 < DelphiWorld> !> ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/infrastructure/. See also
12:06 < DelphiWorld> !> http://gcc.gnu.org/install/prerequisites.html for additional info. If
12:06 < DelphiWorld> !> you obtained GMP, MPFR and/or MPC from a vendor distribution package,
12:06 < DelphiWorld> !> make sure that you have installed both the libraries and the header
12:06 < DelphiWorld> !> files. They may be located in separate packages.
12:06 < DelphiWorld> !> Due to previous errors, no 0-gcc.log file!
12:06 < DelphiWorld> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build syst ..
12:06 < DelphiWorld> == 03/23/11 11:53:50 =[0]=> Aborted building package gcc.
12:06 < DelphiWorld> -> Unmounting loop mounts ...
12:06 < DelphiWorld> embedded always fail with this issue
12:07 < Severian> what do you mean by embedded?
12:07 < DelphiWorld> Severian: target is embedded
12:09 < Severian> OK. I just started my build tonight. It is running on a VirtualBox VM on a Intel 2.1 GHz dual core. I won't get to your stage for a couple of days, I expect.
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12:42 < Severian> good night.
14:08 < rxr> n8
14:10 < DelphiWorld> night Severian
14:14 < DelphiWorld> rxr, any clue for my need please?
14:14 < DelphiWorld> T-One: i'm E-One :)
14:14 < rxr> you mean for your build error ?
14:15 < T-One> E-One?
14:15 < DelphiWorld> T-One: lol, US use T1. europ use E1. this is for telecom :)
14:15 < T-One> DelphiWorld, ? don't get it :)
14:15 < T-One> ah ok ;D
14:15 < DelphiWorld> rxr, yes, and for generating a img file to dd to a cf
14:16 < DelphiWorld> rxr: i get my normal build sucsessfully
14:21 < rxr> we did not yet publish hints for dd filling of CF, as the file size needs to mostly match the cf size and the like
14:21 < rxr> we used to leave this for the educated tinkers to mkfs.ext2 the files onto the cf or image file as needed
14:22 < DelphiWorld> rxr, askozia is T2 related and thay have img file
14:22 < rxr> oh, cool
14:22 < rxr> for cf?
14:22 < rxr> well, I'm not aware of that, only that they started to use T2, not many more details
14:22 < rxr> you could contribute some lines, e.g. about some flash deployment hints as a T2 zine article: http://www.t2-project.org/zine/
14:23 < DelphiWorld> rxr: cf===compact flash :P
14:23 < rxr> yeah, iKnow
14:24 < DelphiWorld> rxr, and i want to try runing a t2 instance in my alix board, so i need it in compact flash
14:24 < rxr> well, you can use seceral methods, from mounting it on your main workstation and rsync the T2 sandbox files onto the CF
14:25 < rxr> or any other method that is comfortable for your setup
14:25 < DelphiWorld> rxr, lovely.
14:25 < rxr> what kind of method would yo prefer?
14:27 < DelphiWorld> rxr: realy not kit sure, i'm a newby in this world
14:27 < DelphiWorld> rxr, if t2 can provide a normal "img" output, that would be very usefull
14:28 < DelphiWorld> rxr, like openwrt can provide ".img" workless
14:29 < rxr> hm, guess we need to figure out a method to directly generate them from the t2 sandbox then
14:30 < Severian> DelphiWorld, I think I know a place you can find that info, but it will be a little work.
14:30 < DelphiWorld> Severian: give!
14:31 < Severian> I mentioned the askozia project uses t2 to build their stuff. https://wush.net/trac/askozia/wiki/SetupT2Host is the page giving the instructions. You could download their iso, mount it loopback and look at their scripts.
14:32 < Severian> Sorry I don't have an easier way. Someone else here may know an easier way, but I wanted you to have what I knew.
14:32 < DelphiWorld> ok Severian,i will try it out
14:33 < DelphiWorld> rxr: please look if you can integrate it to t2. t2 is my unic and only choice.
14:37 < Severian> Oh, there is one weird thing Askozia does. They call the result a .img file, but it is really a compressed .img file. Don't do that. It is confusing.
14:39 < DelphiWorld> Severian: ok :)
14:39 < DelphiWorld> lol
14:39 < DelphiWorld> what about t2 root password? is passless?
14:39 < DelphiWorld> or i need to configure it during my build?
14:40 < Severian> He says they do it for some historic reason that he did not go into details on.
14:42 < DelphiWorld> Severian: what about root password?
14:43 < Severian> What about it?
14:45 < Severian> The instructions say you set it during the process. I just suggested mounting the iso in a loopback and so the root password does not matter, anyway.
14:49 < Severian> I'll be back in 12 hours or so. Good luck.
14:50 < DelphiWorld> Severian: thank you
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21:13 < DelphiWorld> rxr: hey
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--- Log closed Thu Mar 24 00:00:06 2011