--- Log opened Mon Jan 23 00:00:57 2012 02:06 -!- gw [~gw@pc024529.staff.ad.griffith.edu.au] has joined #t2 07:57 -!- gw [~gw@pc024529.staff.ad.griffith.edu.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:23 -!- gw [~gw@60-241-57-145.tpgi.com.au] has joined #t2 10:14 -!- shevy [~shevy@178-191-185-60.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:26 -!- shevy [~shevy@178-190-73-145.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #t2 10:33 < CIA-44> rene * r40128 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-util-macros/xorg-util-macros.desc: * updated xorg-util-macros (1.15.0 -> 1.16.1) 10:36 < CIA-44> rene * r40129 /trunk/package/xorg/pixman/pixman.desc: * updated pixman (0.24.0 -> 0.24.2) 10:37 < CIA-44> rene * r40130 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl/libsdl.desc: * updated libsdl (1.2.14 -> 1.2.15) 10:46 < CIA-44> rene * r40131 /trunk/package/www/uriparser/uriparser.desc: * updated uriparser (0.7.5 -> 0.7.6) 10:47 < CIA-44> rene * r40132 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_image/libsdl_image.desc: * updated libsdl_image (1.2.10 -> 1.2.12) 10:48 < CIA-44> rene * r40133 /trunk/package/base/sgutils/sgutils.desc: * updated sgutils (1.32 -> 1.33) 10:50 < CIA-44> rene * r40134 /trunk/package/network/bacula/bacula.desc: * updated bacula (5.2.3 -> 5.2.4) 10:51 < CIA-44> rene * r40135 /trunk/package/develop/ucommon/ucommon.desc: * updated ucommon (5.1.1 -> 5.1.2) 10:55 -!- T-One [~T-One@213.33.91.2] has joined #t2 10:59 < CIA-44> rene * r40136 /trunk/package/scientific/wxmaxima/wxmaxima.desc: * updated wxmaxima (11.08.0 -> 12.01.0) 11:02 < CIA-44> rene * r40137 /trunk/package/x11/libxdg-basedir/libxdg-basedir.desc: * updated libxdg-basedir (1.1.1 -> 1.2.0) 12:59 -!- bobbytux [~bobbytux@ARouen-553-1-222-217.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:02 -!- bobbytux [~bobbytux@ARouen-553-1-222-217.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #t2 13:37 -!- gw [~gw@60-241-57-145.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:51 -!- bobbytux [~bobbytux@ARouen-553-1-222-217.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:36 -!- gr8 [~User@dslc-082-082-147-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 15:38 < gr8> how does T2 solve the package management? do you have your own repository? 15:40 < gr8> if I want to add a package to my system, do I have to build everything from scratch again? 15:40 < rxr> yes, we have our own, build from source metadata 15:40 < rxr> you can build from source directly into your running system 15:40 < rxr> or build a binary package once, and share it will all your systems 15:43 < gr8> very cool. is T2 a full alternative to Gentoo on an usual desktop? 15:43 < rxr> well, T2 is different 15:43 < rxr> T2 and Gentoo where created around the same time 10+ years ago 15:43 < rxr> they are different, T2 is more optimized to build whole systems, ISO images, embedded firmware 15:44 < rxr> but you can use the T2 build system to install into the system like Gentoo 15:44 < rxr> Gentoo is a little more optimized for that case though 15:46 < gr8> I don't like Gentoo because it somehow feels very complicated... dunno 15:47 < rxr> T2 is more simple, more direct to the ponit 15:47 < gr8> sounds good 15:47 < rxr> though that makes building into the running system a little more rough :-) 15:47 < gr8> what do you mean? 15:47 < rxr> less guidance, failsaves 15:48 < rxr> less dependency clutter 15:48 < rxr> the build scripts are more streamlined, uncluttered, up-to-the-point 15:49 < rxr> btw. I'm biased, the creator, but just realistic :-) 15:52 < gr8> so maintaining (keeping up-to-date) a working T2 system is more complicated than with gentoo? 15:52 < rxr> not necessarily 15:52 < rxr> it can be as simple as scripts/Emerge -system 15:53 < rxr> but if some package has a new dependency it may fail building something from source, Gentoo may point out a nice dependency warning 15:53 < rxr> as I said, T2 scripts are more simple, and just do what they are told to do, ... 15:55 < rxr> though one usually sees from the error what's missing 15:55 < rxr> needless to say this are corner cases 15:55 < rxr> just want to let you know before you spent hours until you notice that :-) 15:56 < rxr> I personally like the simplicitly, and directness 15:58 < gr8> sounds like a fusion of Slackware and Linux From Scratch :D I think I'll give it a try in Virtualbox 15:58 < rxr> if you have questions best always ask on the mailing list 15:58 < rxr> we are a small gropu and I'm not always here :-) 15:59 < gr8> ok thx 16:00 -!- bobbytux [~bobbytux@ARouen-553-1-222-217.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #t2 16:03 [Users #t2] 16:03 [@ChanServ] [ gr8 ] [ mjungwirth2] [ rxr ] [ T-One] 16:03 [ bobbytux] [ koan] [ mtr ] [ shevy ] 16:03 [ CIA-44 ] [ LMJ ] [ rogermas` ] [ Stealth] 16:03 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 16:09 -!- gr8 [~User@dslc-082-082-147-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #t2 [] 18:48 -!- T-One [~T-One@213.33.91.2] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:26 -!- keinek [~leonel@186.60.151.190] has joined #t2 19:26 < keinek> hi 22:08 < rxr> hi keinek 22:09 < keinek> hey rxr soy 22:09 < keinek> so long ago... 22:09 < keinek> :) 22:10 < keinek> i was try compile generic minimal in a virtualbox machine :) 22:10 < keinek> when the next release 9.0 ? 22:10 < keinek> now i used the trunk. 22:11 < rxr> yeah long 22:11 < rxr> hope soon .-) 22:11 < rxr> sorry, have to hurry right now 22:11 < rxr> hope to read from you tomorrow :-)! 22:12 < keinek> ok nice to see you :) 22:12 < keinek> see you tomorrow rxr ;) 22:15 < rxr> cu ! 23:12 -!- gw [~gw@pc024529.staff.ad.griffith.edu.au] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Tue Jan 24 00:00:57 2012