T2 IRC Log: 2005-10-18

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--- Log opened Tue Oct 18 00:00:28 2005
00:01 < Baldzius> hm vserver also has no cksum but the file is *.diff
00:01 < Baldzius> one of files
00:02 < mnemoc> o.o
00:10 < Baldzius> time for bed
00:10 < Baldzius> good night :)
00:35 < mnemoc> finally! http://ip3.conosurseguros.cl/test.php
00:36 < mnemoc> php running on my lighttpd
01:07 < _Ragnar_> rxr: mesa looks for libXt in lib, not lib64
01:12 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_
01:12 < _Ragnar_> hi mnemoc
01:18 < CIA-2> amery * r12650 /trunk/package/base/bcron/ (00-updates.cron 10-checksys.cron): * copied *.cron from cron to bcron
01:20 < CIA-2> amery * r12651 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/ (3 files): * added TAIL files for bcron
03:04 < CIA-2> amery * r12652 /trunk/package/base/bcron/bcron.conf: * fixed bcron to not create a bcron dir inside the already named sysconfdir
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06:32 < rxr> re
07:22 < CIA-2> rene * r12653 /trunk/package/base/gmp/sparc.patch: * fixed compilation of gmp for sparcv9
07:30 < owl> moin *yawn*
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08:13 < rxr> sparc build in 3-bash ,-)
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08:26 < rxr> ouh
08:31 < rxr> hm - Illustrator has redrawing issues on this dual G5 - I wonder what people solder together and release to the public ...
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09:15 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
09:15 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Sat Sep 17 20:47:59 2005]
09:15 [Users #t2]
09:15 [ _Lewellyn] [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mtr] [ owl] [ sparc-kly]
09:15 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-2 ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg] [ rxr] [ valentin ]
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09:28 < rxr> this dual G5 is so extreme slow - my oh my ...
11:24 < Baldzius> moin
11:26 < owl> hi Baldzius
11:26 < Baldzius> hi owl
11:57 < CIA-2> aldas * r12654 /trunk/package/base/mdadm/mdadm.desc: * updated mdadm (1.12.0 -> 2.1)
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12:23 < rxr> re
12:23 < rxr> moin Baldzius
12:23 < rxr> Baldzius: did mdadm built? I update to 2.0 locally but build failed at that time ...
12:25 < rxr> wonderful pixie build freezed my box again ...
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12:39 < Baldzius> rxr: yes it builds fine for me
12:39 < rxr> ok ,-)
12:49 < Baldzius> rxr: maybe it would help updating pixie to new 1.5.2 ver?
13:05 < rxr> no idea
13:05 < rxr> maybe ;-)
13:06 < rxr> though I think it is gcc stressing my system over it's limits ..
13:15 < Baldzius> hm i don't get it, why libdockapp is marked as 0 in desc while wmacpi , which needs libdockapp, is marked as X
13:33 < rxr> maybe typo ,-)
13:34 < rxr> just enable and if it builds commit
13:40 < CIA-2> rene * r12655 /trunk/target/archivista/ (12 files in 6 dirs):
13:40 < CIA-2> * added vsftp, preconfiguration and setup scripts to the archivista
13:40 < CIA-2> target - allows mult function devices to scan onto the box
13:41 < Baldzius> libdockapp builds fine
13:41 < Baldzius> as wmacpi
13:41 < rxr> you have my vote to enable it
13:42 < Baldzius> so i'll change to X, and tweak wmacpi to build after libdockapp
13:47 < rxr> Baldzius: ack
13:51 < CIA-2> rene * r12656 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/preconfig.in: * corrected company association in the sparc64 config title
13:53 < CIA-2> aldas * r12657 /trunk/package/x11/libdockapp/libdockapp.desc: * changed libdockapp status from 0 -> X
13:55 < Baldzius> damn i typed 0?
13:55 < Baldzius> oh my god .... :)
13:58 < CIA-2> rene * r12658 /trunk/package/base/file/file.desc: * updated file (4.15 -> 4.16)
13:59 < rxr> sparc build is in stage 5 now
14:01 < CIA-2> aldas * r12659 /trunk/package/x11/wmacpi/wmacpi.desc: * tweaked prio to build wmacpi after libdockapp
14:01 < Baldzius> rxr: you can remove fluxbox and wmacpi errors
14:28 < CIA-2> aldas * r12660 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * updated gnome-doc-utils (0.4.2 -> 0.4.3)
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14:34 < CIA-2> rene * r12661 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
14:34 < CIA-2> * fixed typo in archivista pdf user account, fixup new ftp permissions
14:34 < CIA-2> in net-backup-restore and added the ftp server to the status overview
14:48 < CIA-2> rene * r12662 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/ (passwd vsftpd.conf):
14:48 < CIA-2> * improved archivista to chroot into the ftp directory for enhanced
14:48 < CIA-2> security and usability as well as made the ftp user shell /bin/false
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15:16 < rxr> Hidden Codes in Printers Cracked
15:16 < rxr> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/10/18/1210237.shtml?tid=158&tid=194
15:31 < Baldzius> wmnetload also required libdockapp
16:00 < mnemoc> moin
16:00 < Baldzius> hi mnemoc
16:00 < mnemoc> moin Baldzius, rxr
16:01 < mnemoc> Baldzius: O -> X means 'enabled by default'
16:03 < Baldzius> mnemoc: at least 2 packages requires libdockapp enabled by default
16:04 < Baldzius> wmnetload & wmacpi
16:04 < mnemoc> "* changed libdockapp to be enabled by default because wmnetload and wmacpi need it"
16:05 < Baldzius> ok sorry :)
16:05 < mnemoc> next time ;)
16:06 < rxr> hi mnemoc
16:06 < mnemoc> hi rxr
16:07 < mnemoc> rxr: can i postsysfile 80:80 lighttpd?
16:07 < rxr> oehm
16:07 < mnemoc> safe_userlala will make it cohexist with apache freely
16:07 < mnemoc> coexist*
16:08 < rxr> well - if you feel too - but then it can not be enabled by default due reference / generic clash
16:09 < mnemoc> safe_useradd with the same username fails if called from two different packages?
16:13 < rxr> no idea - but at least it is a mess
16:13 < mnemoc> ok, so i wont add it
16:19 < CIA-2> rene * r12663 /trunk/target/ (5 files in 5 dirs): * added hotplug++ to the targets that assume a new-style initrd
16:20 < valentin> short hi
16:21 < mnemoc> short welcome back
16:22 < valentin> hi mnemoc !
16:23 < rxr> hey valentin !
16:23 < rxr> valentin: trunk:HEAD builds perfectly on SPARC* now - including the freaky 32/64bit mixed mode ,-)
16:26 < valentin> nice
16:27 < CIA-2> amery * r12664 /branches/2.1/package/base/runit/packages/ (4 files):
16:27 < CIA-2> * merged 12525,12530 from trunk: added TAIL file for starting dropbear with runit
16:27 < CIA-2> * merged 12651 from trunk: added TAIL files for bcron
16:30 < rxr> valentin: my parents might come to berlin tomorrow and the day thereafter
16:31 < mnemoc> http://cyanite.org/execwrap <--- cute
16:32 < valentin> rxr: *g*
16:32 < mnemoc> .oO( is that good or bad? )o
16:32 < rxr> but only if the whether is not too icee
16:33 < rxr> mnemoc: just an info for valentin since I told him to debug his crashin netconf my on one of my parents PCs ...
16:33 < mnemoc> :)
16:33 < valentin> i am in their village and they travel to berlin
16:34 < mnemoc> they are running away from valentin
16:34 < CIA-2> amery * r12665 /branches/2.1/package/base/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * merged 12647,12648 from trunk: renamed cron.run to cron.run.sh (on $confdir only) to be handled by CopyPatch
16:39 < mnemoc> announcement of RL at distrowatch
16:41 < CIA-2> amery * r12666 /branches/2.1/package/base/bcron/bcron.conf: * merged 12634,12652 from trunk: set sysconfdir for bcron
16:44 < rxr> Benjamin Schieder will hold a talk about ROCK Linux at the Linux Info Tag in Dresde
16:44 < rxr> ^- oh my god
16:45 < mnemoc> will you also be there?
16:45 < rxr> I cannot connect to http://www.distrowatch.com ...
16:45 < rxr> mnemoc: nope
16:46 < rxr> oh my because I know blindcoder - I can not imagine that will be an informative talk ..
16:47 < mnemoc> :)
16:51 < nzg> moin
16:53 < nzg> rxr: do you have a card for Linux World Expo left?
16:56 < rxr> nzg: I have many ,-)
16:56 < nzg> have one for me?
16:56 < rxr> just mail the address and I send one or howmany you need ...
16:56 < nzg> sounds like a good idea *g*
16:56 < rxr> nzg: I have so many I barely know whom to hand them to
16:57 < nzg> where did you get that many?
16:58 < rxr> because we (T2) is registered as openbooth project
16:58 < rxr> last I I only got a few - like 10 - 20 or so - this year a pack of 50 or so arrived ...
16:59 < mnemoc> oh
17:00 < nzg> thats quite a fe!
17:01 < nzg> few i mean
17:03 < mnemoc> sell them :p
17:04 < rxr> mnemoc: linux world expo is not that expensive I think ...
17:04 < rxr> nzg: mail the post address and quantity you could give to other people
17:05 < nzg> hm, i will have throuble finding more than two i think
17:06 < rxr> ok - so three cards or so ,-)
17:07 < nzg> that would be nice, yes
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17:09 < Tauras> hello
17:09 < nzg> moin Tauras
17:10 < Tauras> rxr: thanx rene for tips :) bootstrap is still building
17:11 < Tauras> but, I thought that at stage 3 toolchain compilers are used...
17:12 < nzg> hm, is there a particular iso you can recomend to get a system initially up and running?
17:12 < nzg> i need to de-M$ my box (as it's not used for work anymore)
17:12 < Tauras> hmm, I'm still noob in t2
17:12 < rxr> stage 3 is already inside the sandbox
17:13 < Tauras> i bootstrap everything on debian
17:13 < rxr> nzg: the 2.1 release candidates have been known to be fine ,-)
17:13 < nzg> hm, so stable/p4/2.1.0-rc3/t2-desktop for me then?
17:14 < Tauras> for de-M$ use live cd like knoppix... and fdisk /dev/hda :)
17:15 < nzg> Tauras: yes, but i want to put something on it to conect to the internet, and a harddisk filled entirely with zeroes isn't goingv to make it
17:15 < Tauras> on live cd you have network and hard disk - you are free to do everything
17:16 < Tauras> I used it to dd clone
17:18 < mnemoc> rxr: also unionfs 1.1.0 should be out today
17:18 < nzg> hm, but i also have a father who likes to disconnect my power if my brain2reallife connection becomes to laggy
17:18 < rxr> nzg: :-(
17:19 < rxr> mnemoc: ;-)
17:20 < Tauras> how I can build xorg with dietlibc for boot/install target?
17:21 < Tauras> boot target itself is nearly here.. in stage 5 now
17:23 < rxr> we have not yet tested xorg with dietlibc - you might need to patch some lines of code in xorg to do so ...
17:24 < mnemoc> at least ncurses and gettext don't build with dietlibc
17:33 < mnemoc> rxr: Changelog needs to know about recient contributors
17:33 < rxr> mnemoc: ack
17:33 < rxr> mnemoc: ncurses built here ...
17:33 < mnemoc> rxr: ok, i'll see if i'm missing something to merge
17:33 < CIA-2> amery * r12667 /branches/2.1/package/mail/qmail/ (config.in qmail-ldap.conf qmail.conf qmail.desc):
17:33 < CIA-2> * merged 12126 from trunk: changed qmail/qmail-ldap to use pkgprefix
17:33 < CIA-2> * merged 12127,12128,12129 from trunk: improved improved qmail package to support the patching for remote QMTP MXs and hold delivery
17:33 < CIA-2> * merged 12130 from trunk: improved qmail package to support an option to apply QMAILQUEUE
17:34 < Tauras> can you please tell me the command how to build extra package into existing target?
17:35 < mnemoc> Tauras: Config -> Expert -> Custom Package Selection
17:35 < mnemoc> Tauras: X package_to_Add
17:35 < mnemoc> Tauras: - package_to_remove
17:35 < Tauras> ok, and will it start rebuilding everything from scratch?
17:36 < mnemoc> Tauras: if you still have your build/foo-* dir, it will only build the missing part
17:36 < Tauras> great
17:37 < mnemoc> :)
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18:28 < CIA-2> msluis * r12668 /trunk/scripts/config.in: * fixed PARALLEL_MAX cpu calculation typo - sigh
18:29 < mnemoc> rxr: iirc you merged 12668 to 2.1 :)
18:29 < mnemoc> err, you merged the rev fixed with 12668
18:32 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - 2.1 has the same defect
18:32 < rxr> sorry
18:32 < rxr> I just catched that typo
18:32 < rxr> starting to setup a regression tracker on minto's monster opteron box
18:32 < mnemoc> :D
18:33 < mnemoc> rxr: can you merge the fix please? i'm expecting a international link problems so no DNS :\
18:33 < rxr> the next commit is in the simmilar area ...
18:33 < rxr> nameserver 141.64.3.55 or .40
18:33 < rxr> TFH Berlin nameservers ...
18:34 < mnemoc> 92% packages lost :p
18:34 < CIA-2> msluis * r12669 /trunk/package/archiver/lzop/lzop.conf: * fix lzop to really built without system lzo headers ...
18:35 * mnemoc trying anyway
18:35 < rxr> oh - damn
18:35 < rxr> forgot to make sure I commit under my name ...
18:35 < rxr> that is what happens when you use other's root account ...
18:35 < rxr> ok - so with some load on the box I hope misl is happy ,-)
18:36 < mnemoc> :)
18:36 < rxr> and we soon have some nice regression test pages and line plots back
18:36 < rxr> though I lost my good old code for that
18:36 < rxr> need to redo it
18:37 < rxr> especially the html generator had some smart greps to guess the kind of build error ...
18:40 * rxr quick shopping for dinner
19:08 < rxr> alpha glibc builds - good to know ,-)
19:08 * rxr off to susan - cu then
19:08 < mnemoc> cu rxr
19:08 < rxr> hm - in 5-glibc on the sparc64 build s.th. segfaults - autsch - the rest went well so far
19:08 < rxr> including the glibc cross build ...
19:08 < rxr> we'll see
19:17 < _Ragnar_> moin
19:57 < CIA-2> amery * r12670 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/abiword/abiword.desc:
19:57 < CIA-2> * merged 12224 from trunk: updated abiword (2.2.9 -> 2.2.10)
19:57 < CIA-2> * updated abiword (2.2.10 -> 2.2.11)
20:01 < CIA-2> amery * r12671 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/gimp/gimp.desc: * merged 9917 from trunk: updated gimp (2.2.7 -> 2.2.8)
20:35 < rxr> re
20:35 < rxr> cool
20:35 < rxr> moin _Ragnar_
20:36 < rxr> Error logs from default-2.2.0-alpha-sparc64-v9vis-desktop:
20:36 < rxr> [5] base/glibc
20:36 < rxr> 972 builds total, 134 completed fine, 1 with errors.
20:41 < mnemoc> why?
20:41 < rxr> why cool?
20:41 < rxr> just because gimp is useful ,-)
20:41 < rxr> or why glibc on sparc?
20:42 < mnemoc> why glibc on sparc :)
20:43 < rxr> segfault in some program
20:43 < rxr> I'll review later
20:43 < rxr> the rest is fine, glibc32 built as well - and I have a C library from 1-glibc ...
20:43 < rxr> so :-)
20:43 < mnemoc> :D
20:43 < rxr> when I sit on the fresh T2 HEAD system with all the rest going fine I debug this segfaul in some program whatsoever - IIRC gcc or gas
20:54 < rxr> mnemoc: how are your things going ?
20:55 < _Ragnar_> why do some fonts get installed to lib64?
20:55 < mnemoc> rxr: not good, but not bad neither. and you?
20:56 < rxr> _Ragnar_: .oO(seems some post modularization cleanups are left ,-)
20:57 < _Ragnar_> where do they get copied anyway? o_o
20:58 < rxr> the modular X packages copy them itselfs - via configure ; make ; make install
21:01 < rxr> mnemoc: fine - thanks
21:04 < _Ragnar_> bitstream-vera-fonts/bitstream-vera-fonts.conf for example fails
21:04 < _Ragnar_> no configure there
21:13 < rxr> ok - that is no modular X package but our own
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21:30 * mnemoc is everyday less productive... sucks
21:35 < rxr> mnemoc: why ?
21:37 < mnemoc> stress i guess... i can't focus
21:37 < CIA-2> rene * r12672 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * started to adapt desktip/config.in for modular xorg
21:39 < rxr> mnemoc: anything we could do to help you ?
21:40 < mnemoc> nah... don't worry :) you have already helped _a lot_
21:41 < rxr> relax a bit to refresh you
21:42 < rxr> I also had to slow down the last days a bit due to backache
21:47 < CIA-2> amery * r12673 /branches/2.1/package/multimedia/klear/ (klear.conf klear.desc):
21:47 < CIA-2> * merged 11154 from trunk: fixed klear for lib64
21:47 < CIA-2> * merged 11243,12582,12600 from trunk: updated klear (0.3 -> 0.5.0)
21:57 < CIA-2> amery * r12674 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/postlinux.conf: * enabled XATTR support on unionfs
22:24 < rxr> n8 all
22:24 < CIA-2> amery * r12675 /trunk/package/network/phpldapadmin/phpldapadmin.desc: * updated phpldapadmin (0.9.6 -> 0.9.7)
22:24 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr
22:25 < Baldzius> gn8 rxr
--- Log closed Wed Oct 19 00:00:28 2005