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T2 IRC Log: 2006-05-28

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--- Log opened Sun May 28 00:00:11 2006
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00:33 < karasz> wb Lucifer_arma
00:34 < Lucifer_arma> ty, re
00:34 < Lucifer_arma> so how do I get ndiswrapper working? ;)
00:52 < morfoh> Lucifer_arma: I have never used it ... but most probably it will be configured like described on the website or documentation ... T2 should be quite similar because it doesn't change the normal way to configure a package ... mostly ;)
00:54 < Lucifer_arma> I did all the things you normally do. :) I've been using it for over a year now. Maybe my question is "How do I configure the network?"
00:54 < Lucifer_arma> after getting the ndiswrapper loaded, it's module config written, and rebooting to make sure stone picked it up, I got nothing in stone for it
00:55 < _Ragnar_> just put the module load in /etc/conf/kernel and set up the interface normally
00:56 < Lucifer_arma> there isn't an /etc/conf/kernel
00:56 < Lucifer_arma> t2-trunk, btw
00:57 < Lucifer_arma> there is an /etc/modules.d/ndiswrapper though
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00:59 < karasz> cu on monday guys
00:59 < Lucifer_arma> ko
01:00 * karasz .oO the Texan guy is talkin to me?
01:01 < Lucifer_arma> yes?
01:01 < karasz> Lucifer_arma: what is ko?
01:01 < Lucifer_arma> slang for ok
01:01 < karasz> i mean it myust be a shorthand but from what?
01:01 < karasz> i thought it means knock-out
01:01 < Lucifer_arma> ko = ok = affirmative = yessir!
01:01 < Lucifer_arma> ko means knockout when you're talking about boxing :)
01:02 < Lucifer_arma> which we are not...
01:02 < karasz> ok, thanks ;)
01:02 < Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll boot back up into that partition and see if I can make some sense out of network config
01:02 < Lucifer_arma> bbl
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01:13 < Lucifer_arma> ok, the module isn't there, the ndiswrapper module
01:13 < Lucifer_arma> but the ndiswrapper tool is there
01:13 < Lucifer_arma> so, how do I get the module there? Where did it install to?
01:13 * Lucifer_arma installed the ndiswrapper package in package/network/ndiswrapper
01:24 < Lucifer_arma> ok, looks like I need to recompile my kernel with ndiswrapper in it.
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03:33 < Lucifer_arma> so, when I build ndiswrapper, it says I should build my kernel
03:33 < Lucifer_arma> so I built the kernel in my checkout directory, but no ndiswrapper module
03:33 < Lucifer_arma> problem is, without ndiswrapper, I have no network
03:33 < Lucifer_arma> so when I go to /usr/src/t2-trunk and build my kernel, it can't build because it can't download anything
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04:38 < Lucifer_arma> hello? anybody home/
05:00 < sepp> it is a 3rd party kernel mod and will be build as part of linux* if you have it enabled
05:08 < Lucifer_arma> how do I enable it? in Config?
05:09 < sepp> yes
05:09 < Lucifer_arma> do I have to build the whole distribution now?
05:09 < sepp> just the kernel ;)
05:09 * Lucifer_arma doesn't like the idea of waiting 2 more days for a network driver :)
05:10 < Lucifer_arma> ok, so it's on my home partition, which is currently being mounted in /media. I copied the download directory to /usr/src/t2-src and the kernel won't build there
05:10 < Lucifer_arma> but it will build in the spot on my home partition. Is it good enough that I build it there?
05:11 < sepp> some packages (like ndiswrapper) have a pkg_linux*_post.conf, extending the kernel
05:12 < sepp> oem ?
05:12 < Lucifer_arma> ?
05:13 < sepp> why does it not build somewhere?
05:13 < Lucifer_arma> when I boot into the t2 partition, the kernel won't build in /usr/src/t2-src . It wants a package that wasn't downloaded, and there's no network so I can't download it
05:14 < Lucifer_arma> I guess t2-src is just the source tarball for t2 untarred
05:14 < sepp> yes
05:14 < Lucifer_arma> but, when booted into the t2 partition, the original svn checkout still builds fine
05:14 < sepp> you can copy the files you need to /usr/src/t2-src/download/.../
05:15 < Lucifer_arma> and it's the checkout I used to build the distribution that's now installed in t2
05:15 < Lucifer_arma> right, the problem there is that the kernel wants a file that wasn't downloaded originally
05:15 < sepp> some part of ndiswrapper? :)
05:15 < Lucifer_arma> I don't know why, and I don't remember what file it was :/
05:15 < Lucifer_arma> no, not that I know of. doesn't look related, but could be.
05:16 < Lucifer_arma> ndiswrapper ships as a single source tarball though--I've built it from source before (had to because Mandriva's package was broken)
05:16 < Lucifer_arma> maybe if I copy my config directory too... could be a difference in configuration that's triggered it. hadn't thought of that
05:17 < sepp> you could chroot into the t2 / and look what is missing
05:17 < Lucifer_arma> tried that too. Didn't build for different reasons that time.
05:17 < Lucifer_arma> I might still have the error log from that one
05:18 < Lucifer_arma> is there any reason the build won't work if I do it in the original svn checkout directory?
05:18 < Lucifer_arma> I'm asking because when I build the ndiswrapper package originally, it was while booted into Kubuntu and built in that directory,
05:19 < Lucifer_arma> and it installed into Kubuntu and broke my network connection there for a little while, so I'm suspecting I can build from there just fine when booted into the t2 partition
05:20 < sepp> it should
05:20 < Lucifer_arma> I'll try it, thanks. :)
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05:58 < Lucifer_arma> sepp: um, dumb question maybe, how do I change kernel config? :)
05:58 < sepp> there is a option in Config to load a custom kernel config
06:00 < Lucifer_arma> getting there, accidentally loaded the default config and this script runs dog slow on my machine for some reason
06:01 < sepp> that is default :(
06:01 < Lucifer_arma> So expert/experimental settings -> Linux Kernel ?
06:01 < Lucifer_arma> when I ran config originally I gave it -cfg lucifer
06:01 < sepp> "[ ] Apply custom kernel build configuration settings"
06:02 < Lucifer_arma> so when I select that, I get ,----< Linux kernel build config settings >----.
06:02 < Lucifer_arma> and
06:03 < Lucifer_arma> I originally added a rule and just put "ndiswrapper" as the rule, but that didn't appear to work
06:04 < sepp> i think that is not needed for ndiswrapper
06:04 < Lucifer_arma> then I made it "X ndiswrapper" thinking maybe the rules worked like package selection rules
06:04 < Lucifer_arma> so no rule, you say?
06:04 < sepp> no, that is CONFIG_*=
06:05 < sepp> like the .config you get when you run make menuconfig for the kernel
06:05 < Lucifer_arma> hmmm, so I should only check the box you said, and nothing else here? What happens then? Do I get make menuconfig and have to go through it when the kernel builds?
06:06 < Lucifer_arma> sorry for asking so many questions, like I said, I have no network when I do this, and rebooting is really painful.
06:07 < sepp> do not choose custom kernel config, make sure ndiswrapper is enabled in the packsge list and rebuild linux26
06:09 < sepp> that will build the kernel modules of ndiswrapper
06:09 < Lucifer_arma> ok, got it. I added to the package selection rules "X ndiswrapper"
06:09 < sepp> there are some packages extending other packages, but only when they are enabled ...
06:10 < Lucifer_arma> this is kinda making sense. :)
06:10 < Lucifer_arma> ok, so I unchecked [ ] Apply custom kernel build configuration settings"
06:11 < sepp> yes
06:11 < Lucifer_arma> I'm ready to reboot and try it?
06:11 < sepp> do you have all source files?
06:11 * Lucifer_arma suspects this stuff is easier when you're in a t2 installation as host
06:12 < Lucifer_arma> yes, I think
06:12 < Lucifer_arma> I built the ndiswrapper package already and installed it separately, using Build-Pkg
06:12 < sepp> linux-26*.tar.bz2, patch-whatever, ndiswrapper* ...
06:13 < Lucifer_arma> I've already built the kernel once from this directory, so as long as extra files aren't needed beyond what was already used to build the kernel and what comes with ndiswrapper, I'm ok
06:13 < sepp> :)
06:13 < Lucifer_arma> I suppose it wouldn't hurt me to do a Download -required, would it?
06:13 < sepp> no
06:15 < Lucifer_arma> when the new kernel is isntalled, do I need to edit grub.conf (or menu.lst, whatever it is)?
06:15 < sepp> you can use stone
06:16 < Lucifer_arma> will I need to? I have a vague memory of linux putting itself into lilo on its own, don't know about grub. But if it just overwrites the old one, no problem anyway.
06:17 < Lucifer_arma> not a problem either way, I've gotten more familiar with grub than I wanted to. I wanted it in the boot sector of the partition rather than MBR, and stone doesn't do that, apparently
06:18 < sepp> i have not used lilo for years
06:19 < Lucifer_arma> I'm finally being talked away from lilo. Kubuntu uses grub.
06:19 < Lucifer_arma> I found this thing called Simple Boot Manager though, that scans your partitions and constructs a boot menu
06:19 < Lucifer_arma> it lets you boot from cdrom too. :) I like it for that, no more fooling with the bios to boot from cd-rom
06:20 < Lucifer_arma> so I put kubuntu's grub on its partition, and now t2's grub on its.
06:20 < Lucifer_arma> ok, downloading's finished. I think I did a svn update at some point for no reason I can think of.
06:21 < Lucifer_arma> thanks for your help, I"ll be back in a few minutes, either with another problem or to announce problem solved. :)
06:21 < sepp> hehe
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07:27 < Lucifer_arma> yay, I have network :)
07:29 < sepp> (:
07:29 < Lucifer_arma> that kernel compile did the trick, obviously
07:29 * Lucifer_arma will have to remember to include ndiswrapper the *first* time on future builds
07:31 < sepp> or get a new nic that does not need ugly ndiswrapper
07:32 < Lucifer_arma> there's an interesting idea. And I must admit I don't like running the broadcom adapter
07:32 < Lucifer_arma> last time I priced them out, they weren't cheap, but not terribly expensive either
07:32 < Lucifer_arma> low priority in the presense of ndiswrapper, though, sorry
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08:48 < Lucifer_arma> so, firefox won't build, apparently
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09:48 < CIA-3> aldas * r17655 /trunk/package/develop/hte/ (gcc41.patch hotfix_libs_at_the_end.patch hte.conf hte.desc):
09:48 < CIA-3> * updated hte (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
09:48 < CIA-3> * removed gcc41.patch - obsolete
09:48 < CIA-3> * copyright update
09:52 < CIA-3> aldas * r17656 /trunk/package/network/aoetools/aoetools.desc: * updated aoetools (9 -> 10)
09:58 < CIA-3> aldas * r17657 /trunk/package/gnustep/sope/ (sope.conf sope.desc):
09:58 < CIA-3> * fixed sope to compile with apr*-1.x
09:58 < CIA-3> * copyright update
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11:19 < CIA-3> aldas * r17658 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-speech/gnome-speech.desc: * updated gnome-speech (0.3.10 -> 0.4.0)
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11:34 < CIA-3> aldas * r17659 /trunk/package/gnome2/glabels/glabels.desc: * updated glabels (2.1.2 -> 2.1.3)
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11:39 < morfoh> hi
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14:22 < keinek> hi
14:24 < mnemoc_> wb keinek
14:25 < keinek> thanks mnemoc.
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15:01 < CIA-3> aldas * r17660 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (5.0.21 -> 5.0.22)
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16:05 < LMJ> Hello the Chan
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18:04 < morfoh> hi LMJ
18:05 < LMJ> moin morfoh
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18:17 < CIA-3> aldas * r17661 /trunk/package/network/amule/amule.desc: * updated amule (2.1.1 -> 2.1.2)
18:18 < mnemoc> keinek: xmame is already at 0.105 on trunk ,-)
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18:20 < Baldzius> :)
18:21 < Baldzius> he's 500 commits behind :)
18:21 < mnemoc> hehe
18:22 < Baldzius> hm
18:22 < Baldzius> r17184 | aldas | 2006-04-22 11:05:29 +0000 (Sat, 22 Apr 2006) | 4 lines
18:22 < Baldzius> Leonel Ivan Saafigueroa
18:22 < Baldzius> * updated xmame (0.104 -> 0.105)
18:22 < Baldzius> * copyright update
18:22 < mnemoc> .oO
18:23 < Baldzius> interesting, maybe i forgot to mention about commit in ML
18:24 < Baldzius> :)))))
18:25 < mnemoc> the problem imo is to not review before sending patches to the ML ,-)
18:25 * mnemoc slaps keinek
18:27 < Baldzius> happens
18:27 < mnemoc> :)
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18:28 < Baldzius> bad mnemoc, you scared poor keinek :)
18:29 < mnemoc> oh
18:34 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :)
18:35 < Baldzius> moin morfoh :)
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19:34 < morfoh> Bambalzius ... last update is 1h 30min ago :)
19:37 < Baldzius> Bambaldzius is going to bed ... :)
19:40 < morfoh> gn8 Bambaldzius :)
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19:41 < morfoh> Baldzius: sleep well ... and don't bother the poor cow that much :)
19:41 < morfoh> Baldzius: I mean tomorrow in the morning
19:41 < Baldzius> 2 cows :)
19:41 < Baldzius> thanks morfoh, gn8 :)
19:41 < morfoh> Baldzius: then don't bother both :)
19:42 < morfoh> Baldzius: Gn8 :D
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20:41 < morfoh> gn8
20:41 < mnemoc> gn8 morfoh
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22:10 < keinek> hi gys
22:10 < keinek> i need some help
22:10 < keinek> i be in the house of a friend
22:10 < keinek> i need the configuration for make the conection to adsl with t2
22:11 < keinek> over the eth0 interface
22:11 < keinek> one time i ask for that but i lost the logs
22:11 < keinek> anybody asleep?
22:11 < keinek> i really need help
22:19 < mnemoc> pppoe?
22:20 < mnemoc> at etc/conf/network add
22:20 < mnemoc> interface ppp0
22:20 < mnemoc> ppp eth0
22:20 < mnemoc> ppp_option defaultroute
22:21 < mnemoc> ppp_option user "your_friend@telefonica.stinks"
22:21 < mnemoc> pppoe
22:21 < mnemoc> err
22:22 < mnemoc> indent that line :p
22:22 < mnemoc> and then you have to choose if you place the password at etc/conf/network or /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
22:23 < keinek> ok, and the password in pap
22:23 < keinek> ok
22:23 < keinek> thanks again again mnemoc
22:23 < mnemoc> good luck :)
22:27 < keinek> mnemoc: in pppoe what is the err?
22:27 < mnemoc> indent it :)
22:27 < keinek> i cant understand mnemoc
22:28 < keinek> finish with pppoe?
22:28 < mnemoc> faltaron los espacios antes del comando, para que se vea bonito
22:28 < mnemoc> eso es indentar
22:28 < keinek> ok thanks
22:28 < keinek> :P
22:28 < mnemoc> your welcome
22:29 < mnemoc> i usually place the pppoe command right after the ppp eth0 line
22:29 < mnemoc> before the first ppp_option
22:29 < keinek> ok i will test
22:29 < keinek> i be back
22:29 < keinek> :P
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