T2 IRC Log: 2008-09-23

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--- Log opened Tue Sep 23 00:00:11 2008
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10:04 < rxr> re
10:06 < cekay> is it possible to build t2 install cds which perform an automatic installation of the system? like preconfiguring "use the whole disk as /" and install all packages in the distribution?
10:07 < rxr> no yet, but others already asked and you could modify the install to just partition and unpack the way you want
10:09 < cekay> is that hard? where would be the starting point for this?
10:10 < rxr> the installer is split into the bootup related parts in target/share/install and the stone modules, where most parts are done in package/base/stone/stone_mod_install.sh
10:10 < rxr> you could modify a few lines here and there ...
10:11 < rxr> maybe it even is enough to feed some input from a pre-made text file ala:
10:11 < rxr> stone < install-chooses
10:11 < rxr> or so ...
10:11 < cekay> ok, cool
10:11 < cekay> thanks
10:11 < cekay> i'll have a look into that
10:11 < rxr> have fun
10:12 < cekay> btw, the question i asked yesterday about the live cd and minimal system. it seems that the build process didn't like the combination
10:12 < cekay> now that i made minimal system install cds everything went through
10:14 < rxr> hm
10:26 < CIA-22> rene * r30532 /trunk/package/audio/lame/lame.desc: * updated lame (3.98 -> 398-2)
10:26 < CIA-22> rene * r30533 /trunk/package/security/libksba/libksba.desc: * updated libksba (1.0.3 -> 1.0.4)
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10:53 < cekay> genisoimage: Unexpected joliet directory length 456 expected: 460 ''
10:53 < cekay> when i'm trying to create the iso image of my build
10:54 < cekay> i'm getting an iso image, but the gasgui prints the following error message:
10:54 < CIA-22> rene * r30534 /trunk/package/kde/qt4/qt4.desc: * updated qt4 (4.4.1 -> 4.4.2)
10:54 < cekay> arg, cant copy paste from vmare
10:55 < cekay> vmware*
10:55 < cekay> /mnt/cdrom0/1.7-x86-reference/pkgs/packages.db: No such file or directory
11:04 < CIA-22> rene * r30535 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-system-tools/gnome-system-tools.desc: * updated gnome-system-tools (2.22.0 -> 2.22.1)
11:04 < CIA-22> rene * r30536 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-nettool/gnome-nettool.desc: * updated gnome-nettool (2.22.0 -> 2.22.1)
11:04 < CIA-22> rene * r30537 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-netstatus/gnome-netstatus.desc: * updated gnome-netstatus (2.12.1 -> 2.12.2)
11:04 < CIA-22> rene * r30538 /trunk/package/gnome2/gthumb/gthumb.desc: * updated gthumb (2.10.9 -> 2.10.10)
11:04 < CIA-22> rene * r30539 /trunk/package/gnome2/librsvg/librsvg.desc: * updated librsvg (2.22.2 -> 2.22.3)
11:04 < CIA-22> rene * r30540 /trunk/package/gnome2/tomboy/tomboy.desc: * updated tomboy (0.10.1 -> 0.12.0)
11:04 < CIA-22> rene * r30541 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-python/gnome-python.desc: * updated gnome-python (2.22.1 -> 2.22.3)
11:04 < CIA-22> rene * r30542 /trunk/package/gnome2/libglademm/libglademm.desc: * updated libglademm (2.6.6 -> 2.6.7)
11:05 < CIA-22> rene * r30543 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomeprintui/libgnomeprintui.desc: * updated libgnomeprintui (2.18.2 -> 2.18.3)
11:05 < CIA-22> rene * r30544 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomeprint/libgnomeprint.desc: * updated libgnomeprint (2.18.4 -> 2.18.5)
11:05 < CIA-22> rene * r30545 /trunk/package/network/crossroads/crossroads.desc: * updated crossroads (2.12 -> 2.13)
11:05 < CIA-22> rene * r30546 /trunk/package/base/freeipmi/freeipmi.desc: * updated freeipmi (0.6.7 -> 0.6.8)
11:56 < cekay> ok.. im a bit too dumb today. i used mkiso fs to build the image, but the package installer always terminates with an error message and the system is not going to be installed
12:04 < rxr> you build it manually ?
12:04 < rxr> you are not using t2's Create-ISO ?
13:03 < cekay> nope .. with create-iso.. but i commented the use of genisoimage out
13:03 < cekay> so the script uses mkisofs
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16:55 < CIA-8> rene * r30547 /trunk/package/network/libixp/ (build.patch libixp.desc): * updated libixp (0.4 -> 0.5)
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17:59 < mpp> ah' evening
18:58 -!- otwieracz [i=1000@77-254-130-32.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #t2
18:58 < otwieracz> Hello.
18:59 < otwieracz> Is there anynody?
18:59 < otwieracz> anybody*
19:00 < otwieracz> package/base/gcc/config-550.in: line 22: /dev/fd/62: No such file or
19:00 < otwieracz> directory
19:00 < otwieracz> I have that problem.
19:00 < otwieracz> What is wrong?
19:25 < Ragnarin> make a symlink from /dev/fd to /proc/fd
19:25 < Ragnarin> pardon, /proc/self/fd
19:25 < otwieracz> Yes, yes.
19:25 < otwieracz> too late :)
19:26 < Ragnarin> lol
19:26 < otwieracz> I found it in log of this #
19:26 < otwieracz> But, thanks.
19:26 < otwieracz> I can choose other kernel to my system?
19:26 < otwieracz> It's downloading 2.6.19, but i want 2.4.x
19:27 < felanha> there is a linux24 package
19:27 < otwieracz> How to select it?
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19:28 < otwieracz> I use Cofig script only.
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19:28 < otwieracz> And doesn't see any packages option.
19:29 < otwieracz> How to add some files to t2?
19:29 < Ragnarin> have to select the experimental and the custon package selection options
19:31 < otwieracz> I have the menu.
19:31 < otwieracz> Ad what now?
19:31 < otwieracz> Where?
19:32 < Ragnarin> [*] Show expert and experimental options
19:32 < Ragnarin> and
19:32 < Ragnarin> - Additional Package Selection
19:32 < Ragnarin> [*] Custom package selection
19:34 < otwieracz> Aah
19:34 < otwieracz> I thinking about this.
19:34 < otwieracz> But I'm not export with t2.
19:34 < otwieracz> "My first time" :)
19:35 < otwieracz> How to add support for ADSL USB Modem?
19:36 < otwieracz> I know how to install it on desktop system.
19:37 < otwieracz> Ragnarin: and where select package linux24?
19:38 < felanha> afaik linux24 is in the standard build, but you may have to disable linux26
19:39 < felanha> otherwise further down you get additional package options, one of them for the kernel
19:39 < otwieracz> Yes.
19:39 < otwieracz> Linux Kernel Options
19:41 < otwieracz> And what i must uncheck?
19:42 < otwieracz> But...
19:42 < otwieracz> At this moment I stay with 2.6
19:42 < Ragnarin> what target are you building?
19:42 < otwieracz> LiveCD
19:42 < Ragnarin> ah ... the 2.4 kernel may be disabled for that
19:43 < otwieracz> Well...
19:43 < otwieracz> Nothing.
19:43 < otwieracz> How to add external program to t2?
19:43 < Ragnarin> look at packges/*/
19:43 < otwieracz> This t2 system szhould work as router.
19:44 < Ragnarin> basically you create a directory for it, write a .desc file, and sometimes a .conf for building
19:44 < Ragnarin> why would you use 2.4 for a router? o_o
19:44 < otwieracz> It is terminal.
19:44 < otwieracz> It doesn't like new eggs :)
19:44 < otwieracz> Ok.
19:45 < otwieracz> I should configure everything before creating livecd?
19:45 < otwieracz> It was bad, configuring everything every restart.
19:45 < Ragnarin> of course
19:45 < otwieracz> This modem is Sagem F@st 800 E4.
19:45 < otwieracz> I have drivers for them.
19:46 < otwieracz> But how to add they to t2?
19:46 < Ragnarin> as a kernel patch?
19:47 < otwieracz> Nope.
19:47 < otwieracz> Kernel module.
19:47 < otwieracz> Sources.
19:47 < Ragnarin> that's the same :p
19:47 < otwieracz> Ok, ok :)
19:48 < otwieracz> The same with rtl8180 wi-fi card/
19:48 < Ragnarin> you might wanna look at some of the other kernel drivers then
19:48 < Ragnarin> because those are a little different
19:49 < otwieracz> With this drivers. everything is "make && make install".
19:49 < otwieracz> If ther isn't errors :)
19:49 < Ragnarin> yes but they still need the kernel sources around usually
19:49 < Ragnarin> so they have to be built together with the kernel
19:50 < otwieracz> I'm too stupid for t2 ;/
19:51 < Ragnarin> :/
19:52 < Ragnarin> you sure that hardware isn't supported in the latest 2.6 anyway?
19:52 < otwieracz> ADSL modem is.
19:52 < otwieracz> In 2.6.24+
19:52 < otwieracz> wi-fi card - I dunno.
19:52 < Ragnarin> well then why not try that :p
19:53 < otwieracz> I must create my own kernel?
19:53 < Ragnarin> no just use the packaged 2.6 one
19:54 < Ragnarin> linux26: lib/modules/2.6.26.5-dist/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8180.ko
19:54 < Ragnarin> so I very much think it IS supported :p
19:55 < otwieracz> Yes, yes.
19:55 < otwieracz> Friend with this kernel tell me that.
19:55 < otwieracz> Superb :)
19:55 < otwieracz> Well..
19:55 < otwieracz> How to tell t2 to use that kernel with support of PPP, USB modem and rtl8180?
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19:57 < Ragnarin> by default t2 uses an initrd that loads all the needed hardware drivers automatically
19:58 < otwieracz> kernel was compiled with everything?
19:58 < Ragnarin> yes
19:58 < Ragnarin> or should be :)
19:58 < otwieracz> :P
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19:58 < otwieracz> Ok.
19:58 < otwieracz> "with support of PPP, USB modem and rtl8180?
19:58 < otwieracz> "
19:58 < otwieracz> - solved
19:58 < Ragnarin> but you can check the /boot/kconfig* file the kernel build creates to make sure
19:58 < otwieracz> "How to tell t2 to use that kernel" - not solved :)
19:59 < Ragnarin> duh it's the standard kernel ... you DON'T have to tell it anything :P
20:00 < otwieracz> Well...
20:00 < otwieracz> Why ./scripts/Download -required downloads me kernel 2.6.19?
20:00 < Ragnarin> for kernel-headers
20:01 < otwieracz> Well, type ./scripts/Download -required and go away?
20:01 < otwieracz> Setup will do everything?
20:01 < Ragnarin> yes
20:01 < otwieracz> Awesome!
20:01 < otwieracz> :)
20:01 < Ragnarin> or just ./scripts/Build-Target
20:01 < felanha> ./scripts/Build-Target will do the download as well
20:02 < felanha> :)
20:10 < otwieracz> Downloading linux26:download/mirror/l/linux-2.6.21.tar.bz2 ...
20:11 < otwieracz> wtf?
20:11 < Ragnarin> are you building trunk?
20:11 < Ragnarin> (you should)
20:11 < otwieracz> Sources from sf.net.
20:11 < otwieracz> Ok, ok.
20:11 < otwieracz> I'm going :)
20:13 < otwieracz> Well, I doesn't need select any custom packages and can leave expert option unchecked?
20:13 < otwieracz> This is a cross-build between architectures
20:13 < otwieracz> Check this
20:13 < otwieracz> ?
20:14 < Ragnarin> no
20:14 < Ragnarin> (unless you want to do it)
20:14 < otwieracz> Ok.
20:14 < otwieracz> Ok, i only check livecd as target.
20:15 < otwieracz> Downloading linux-header:download/mirror/l/linux-2.6.24.tar.bz2 ...
20:15 < otwieracz> Right?
20:15 < felanha> yep
20:16 < Ragnarin> that's better
20:29 < otwieracz> Ok :)
20:37 < mpp> hey there , like how deep is the recursion with Emerge-Pkg -deps=indirect ?
20:37 < Ragnarin> no clue
20:41 < mpp> k
20:42 < otwieracz> Downloading linux26:download/mirror/l/linux-2.6.26.tar.bz2 ...
20:42 < otwieracz> :)
20:43 < otwieracz> Ok.
20:43 < otwieracz> Ragnarin:
20:43 < otwieracz> I have binary program
20:43 < otwieracz> It is one binary and config file.
20:44 < otwieracz> And how to add it to t2?
20:45 < Ragnarin> uhm ...
20:46 < Ragnarin> never done that, but I guess just copying it into the build tree at some point before the build finishes should work
20:47 < otwieracz> What I have after Build-Target?
20:47 < otwieracz> I have maaaaaaany questions.
20:48 < otwieracz> :)
20:49 < Ragnarin> I'd think an ISO file :p
20:49 < Ragnarin> but dunno it's been years since I built a livecd
20:50 < otwieracz> ./scripts/Create-ISO mycdset
20:50 < otwieracz> Well, this creates ISO file.
20:51 < otwieracz> How long build takes.
20:52 < Ragnarin> several hours to days
20:52 < otwieracz> How to add package from trunk?
20:53 < Ragnarin> hm?
20:53 < otwieracz> http://t2-project.org/packages/
20:54 < otwieracz> This package:
20:54 < otwieracz> t2-trunk/package/network/webmin
20:55 < Ragnarin> it's already in there ...
20:55 < otwieracz> Setup installs all packages?
20:55 < otwieracz> I fit it on CD?~
20:55 < otwieracz> ?!
20:56 < Ragnarin> if it's not in the livecd, you have to select the experimental and custom package selection options, then add a 'X webmin' line into you pkgsel
20:56 < Ragnarin> no the livecd doesn't include all packages
20:57 < Ragnarin> but there's a list of all the packages is wants to build in the Config :)
20:57 < otwieracz> Where?
20:57 < otwieracz> Ah.
20:57 < otwieracz> Yes.
20:59 < otwieracz> A lot of downloading waiting for me...
21:00 < Ragnarin> you can go through the list and deselect packages you know you won't need
21:00 < otwieracz> Hmmm
21:00 < otwieracz> WTF?
21:00 < otwieracz> Gnome want's to install?
21:01 < otwieracz> I choose "minimal" set.
21:02 < Ragnarin> o_o hmmm
21:02 < otwieracz> --> Show the current package list
21:02 < otwieracz> I select this options.
21:02 < otwieracz> And something from gnome was there.
21:03 < Ragnarin> check the first letter
21:03 < Ragnarin> if it's an 'O' it won't be built
21:03 < Ragnarin> only when it's an 'X
21:03 < otwieracz> Aaaah, yes.
21:04 < otwieracz> Where I can select/deselect packagas?
21:05 < Ragnarin> if you switch on the custem package selection, you get the option of editing the pkgsel file
21:05 < felanha> O - optional, X - explicit
21:05 < otwieracz> What is name of this?
21:06 < felanha> optional packages may be built when other packages depend on them
21:06 < otwieracz> What is name of this?
21:07 < otwieracz> Ragnarin: what is name of this option.
21:07 < felanha> these are rules you can add in the custom package selection in Config
21:07 < otwieracz> When I can select/deselect.
21:08 < otwieracz> Well, what rules looks like?
21:08 < felanha> or directly edit config//pkgsel
21:08 < otwieracz> Gimme some example.
21:08 < otwieracz> If you can.
21:09 < felanha> e.g. 'O gnome14/*
21:09 < felanha> e.g. O gnome14/*
21:09 < Ragnarin> ===> Edit package selection rules
21:09 < Ragnarin> in the Config
21:09 < Ragnarin> btw never run Config while you have a build running
21:10 < otwieracz> Ok.
21:10 < otwieracz> I Ctrl+C it.
21:10 < otwieracz> Hmmm...
21:10 < otwieracz> How to CTRL+C it? :)
21:10 < felanha> twice ;-)
21:10 < otwieracz> I close tab with it.
21:10 < otwieracz> :P
21:10 < otwieracz> Works too.
21:11 < otwieracz> Eeeh
21:12 < otwieracz> A lot of downloading...
21:13 < felanha> if you want to disable a single package - e.g. because it breaks the kernel build - you can also remove it with a rule like '- mac80211', i.e. a '-' instead of 'O'
21:14 < otwieracz> And + instead of X?
21:14 < felanha> you may want to disable large packages like kde, gnome, e16, e17...
21:15 < otwieracz> I disable it by targer.
21:15 < otwieracz> Minimal doesn't contain it.
21:15 < Ragnarin> no '+' doesn't work
21:15 < otwieracz> Ok.
21:18 < felanha> - will remove the package from the build even if other packages depend on it
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21:19 < otwieracz> Yes, yes.
21:19 < otwieracz> Thanks!
21:19 < otwieracz> :)
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21:34 < otwieracz> Ok, Im going.
21:34 < otwieracz> Bye.
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23:32 < Ragnarin> rxr: what do I do with probe.c:(.text+0x565): undefined reference to `uuid_is_null'
23:32 < Ragnarin> in util-linux?
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