T2 IRC Log: 2009-09-11
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--- Log opened Fri Sep 11 00:00:43 2009
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07:16 < mpp> moinsen
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10:30 < csiadmin> Morning all - happy friday to everyone!
10:40 < mpp> hey csiadmin: !!
10:40 < mpp> yes it is
10:40 < mpp> lack of sleep - but had a huge download on working with git the past 2 days :-)
10:40 < csiadmin> hey mpp: hows your vacation coming along?
10:40 < mpp> into my brain that is
10:41 < mpp> ahmmm. pretty cool so far
10:41 < mpp> how is you project ?
10:42 < csiadmin> going well thanks. just writing a custom installer - curious as to why you went ruby on yours?
10:42 < mpp> cause times change
10:42 < mpp> :-)
10:43 < mpp> bashing to bashing people
10:43 < csiadmin> :-)
10:43 < mpp> what scripting language do you prefer ?
10:43 < mpp> #!/bin/bash :-?
10:43 < csiadmin> I'm a java developer (csiadmin awaits flaming...)
10:43 < mpp> oh cool
10:44 < mpp> no flames
10:44 < mpp> just sparkling gems :-) *
10:44 < mpp> i know my installer sucks
10:44 < mpp> but it was a quick hack
10:44 < mpp> now that i have svn + git repos synced
10:45 < csiadmin> ...it's working better than mine!
10:45 < mpp> i'll refactor the universe :-) LOL
10:45 < mpp> need a hand - let me know
10:46 < csiadmin> thx do appreciate it.
10:46 < csiadmin> tested our vod app yesterday on box - worked very nicely! :-)
10:46 < mpp> well done !
10:47 < mpp> so how's weather northwise ?
10:47 < mpp> sunny over here :-)
10:48 < mpp> note 2 self : sunglasses needed when sleep < 4h
10:48 < csiadmin> very sunny here - already a blazing 8C
10:50 < mpp> LOL
10:50 < mpp> have some whiskey - warms u up on the inside :-)
10:52 < csiadmin> arrangements have been made for this evening...
11:12 < mpp> tadaa !
11:13 < mpp> i could not determine that irish toast ind 'the departed'
11:13 < mpp> maybe you can help out
11:13 < mpp> skaleil skoleil ...
11:15 < mpp> could be entirely wrong about that...
11:16 < csiadmin> oh yeah - not bad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sl%C3%A1inte
11:17 < csiadmin> we say it: slon-cha
11:20 < mpp> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/quotes
11:20 < mpp> one get's the impression that the native english / american tounge is bad ass 24/7
11:23 < mpp> bit i know better :-)
11:23 < mpp> time for a tea break
11:23 < mpp> pg-tips :-) it is
11:23 < mpp> bbs
11:33 < csiadmin> afk
11:34 < mpp> cheers
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12:53 < t2-newbie> hello
12:55 < t2-newbie> i've built the t2 generic target and now i'm wondering how to keep a t2 system up to date
12:56 < t2-newbie> i tried an svn update and it updated 3 packages
12:57 < t2-newbie> Download -required downloaded them but Build-Target didn't build a new package
12:57 < t2-newbie> is there a common way to rebuilt all packages that have been updated in svn ?
13:04 < mpp> scripts/Create-Errlist -cfg mycfg -newremove
13:04 < mpp> rebuilt
13:06 < t2-newbie> cool -thank you!
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16:47 < csiadmin> hey mpp: you still around?
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16:48 < Baldzius> moin
16:55 < csiadmin> hi Baldzius
16:55 < Baldzius> moin csiadmin
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18:00 < mpp> yes csiadmin:
18:03 < csiadmin> hey mpp: nearly there at this end ;-)
18:05 < mpp> right
18:05 < mpp> computer: locate csiadmin ....
18:06 < mpp> csiadmin is currently oh holodeck 3
18:06 < mpp> what program is he running......
18:06 < mpp> weeken programm 2009 .
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18:06 < mpp> so what can i do ya ...
18:07 < csiadmin> LOL
18:07 < mpp> oh will....
18:07 < mpp> oh imsadi ....
18:08 < mpp> LOL :-)
18:08 < csiadmin> just wondered how I would slip some files into your initrd.img
18:08 < mpp> ah
18:08 < mpp> place them in target/rescue-irf/rootfs/.....
18:08 < csiadmin> that's it just copy them in?
18:09 < mpp> that points to the / to be overlayed
18:09 < mpp> then rebuilt
18:09 < mpp> yes that's it
18:09 < csiadmin> awesome - I'd tried this before but in a installcd it doesn't work
18:09 < mpp> hm...
18:09 < mpp> nut sure why
18:10 < csiadmin> 99% finished my installer - very basic but does what I need.
18:10 < mpp> that's the way
18:10 < mpp> i think i'll initiate a new installer for t2
18:11 < mpp> maybe i can adopt / fork an existing one
18:11 < mpp> otherwise harnesing the power of ruby.....
18:11 < mpp> i think i'm gonna go for ruby style :-)
18:12 < csiadmin> will probably have to do the same here - I'd looked at python, only because I could adapt the gui from anaconda
18:12 < mpp> sure np
18:12 < csiadmin> the anaconda gui is completely separate from the python scripts doing the work in the background
18:13 < mpp> for end users that does make sense ...
18:14 < mpp> on the other hand - things i do personally need an excellent installer scripts
18:14 < mpp> since most stuff is i do is hands off
18:14 < mpp> kickstart / presedd
18:14 < csiadmin> got it. I've to provide nice pretty (professional) installers
18:15 < mpp> that's another topic !
18:15 < csiadmin> one sec -
18:15 < mpp> 2 to beam to the bridge.
18:15 < mpp> shwiiiing :-) LOL
18:20 < csiadmin> LOL
18:20 < mpp> git rules
18:20 < mpp> i just synced with a finger snap to the svn
18:20 < csiadmin> hmm sshd not running
18:20 < mpp> ah ...
18:21 < csiadmin> I've not used git - we're all over the svn here
18:21 < mpp> here is the thing:
18:21 < mpp> yes svn sucks !
18:21 < mpp> b2topic
18:21 < mpp> you need to let udev settle
18:21 < mpp> before you start interfaces
18:21 < mpp> ssh is probably startet gbut
18:21 < mpp> dhcp is not able to bring up the interface
18:22 < mpp> sorry about svn...
18:22 < mpp> :-)
18:22 < csiadmin> I've no love for svn anyways
18:22 < mpp> good boy !
18:22 < mpp> has anyone ever switched back from git -> svn
18:22 < mpp> LOl
18:23 < csiadmin> I think that's like moving from ruby -> bash
18:23 < mpp> merging + branching is state the of the art with git
18:23 < mpp> yes !!!!!
18:23 < mpp> luv ya man
18:23 < mpp> now were on the same page my friend
18:23 < mpp> see any dinosaurs aroung ?
18:23 < mpp> .... didn't think so .. !
18:24 < csiadmin> lol :-)
18:25 < mpp> there was a distro from the uk called rubyx
18:25 < mpp> the dude transformed all the bashin into ruby
18:25 < csiadmin> awesome
18:25 < mpp> think it's inactive nowadays
18:25 < mpp> yeah i wasn#t ready with ruby back then
18:25 < mpp> but today
18:26 < csiadmin> looked at it briefly - seems very readable
18:26 < mpp> i already convert parts of the t2 bashism -> ruby
18:26 < mpp> single malt oop style :-) LOL
18:26 < csiadmin> hehe
18:27 < csiadmin> hmm - anything I need to do to set up ssh other than gen the keys?
18:27 < mpp> start the daeomn
18:27 < mpp> have an ip address bound to the interface
18:28 < csiadmin> I've got an ip, and am starting sshd through the normal init.d script
18:28 < mpp> should be enough
18:29 < csiadmin> I've tried restarting it - no joy. keys are there though
18:30 < mpp> does the sshd run
18:30 < mpp> ps -a|grep ssh
18:30 < csiadmin> one sec
18:31 < csiadmin> sshd - no keys available
18:31 < mpp> hm...
18:32 < csiadmin> clearly a feature added by me :-)
18:32 < mpp> maybe the shell environment is not set proper
18:32 < mpp> have a look at my rescue/rootfs/etc/minit/local/run stuff
18:33 < mpp> did you build the same target ?
18:33 < mpp> cause the installer is minimalistic in terms of shell environment
18:33 < csiadmin> it's saying no dsa and rsa key. it's got the other ssh_host_key files
18:34 < mpp> then the paths aren't right
18:34 < mpp> is it the dropbear / ssh
18:34 < mpp> dropbear has different paths i think
18:35 < mpp> try using telnet first
18:35 < mpp> spares u the walk downstairs ...
18:35 < csiadmin> different target - no telnet
18:35 < csiadmin> I'm just running
18:35 < mpp> just add it for debbuging purpose
18:35 < mpp> u can deactivate afterwards
18:37 < csiadmin> lkjadf
18:37 < csiadmin> testing one two
18:37 < csiadmin> back again
18:37 < mpp> u could give the sshd
18:37 < mpp> explicit paths
18:38 < csiadmin> I do in my installer
18:38 < mpp> so u make sure it uses the proper ones
18:38 < mpp> hm...
18:38 < csiadmin> I'm just not sure what stone normally runs to gen the key
18:38 < csiadmin> s
18:39 < mpp> ah ...
18:39 < mpp> u r talking about the installed system
18:39 < mpp> diff topic
18:40 < mpp> what target did you use for building ?
18:40 < csiadmin> sorry mpp: my bad should've said.
18:40 < csiadmin> just flicking through the stone script now..
18:46 < csiadmin> think it might have to wait until Monday - it's past beer o'clock
18:47 < mpp> o geezut
18:47 < mpp> z
18:47 < mpp> run csiadmin: run !!!
18:47 < csiadmin> LOL
18:48 < csiadmin> I'll set up you with a single malt - think you'll make it?
18:48 < csiadmin> before closing?
18:48 < mpp> no joy
18:48 < mpp> next time
18:48 < mpp> i have on here
18:49 < mpp> see you on mundai
18:49 < mpp> :-)
18:49 < csiadmin> :-)
18:49 < csiadmin> have a great weekend my friend
18:49 < mpp> u2
18:49 < csiadmin> bye
18:49 < mpp> :-) (they are from ireland right ?)
18:50 < csiadmin> absolutely - one of our most profitable exports :-)
18:50 < mpp> note 2 self: cool sunglasses make the difference in life !
18:50 < csiadmin> LOL
18:50 < mpp> besides the liquid stuff !
18:50 < csiadmin> see ya next week
18:50 < mpp> love it
18:50 < mpp> byebye
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04:44 < CIA-41> aldas * r34169 /trunk/package/network/squid/squid.desc: * updated squid (3.0.STABLE18 -> 3.0.STABLE19)
04:44 < CIA-41> aldas * r34170 /trunk/package/www/seamonkey/seamonkey.desc: * updated seamonkey (1.1.17 -> 1.1.18)
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07:16 < mpp> moinsen
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10:30 < csiadmin> Morning all - happy friday to everyone!
10:40 < mpp> hey csiadmin: !!
10:40 < mpp> yes it is
10:40 < mpp> lack of sleep - but had a huge download on working with git the past 2 days :-)
10:40 < csiadmin> hey mpp: hows your vacation coming along?
10:40 < mpp> into my brain that is
10:41 < mpp> ahmmm. pretty cool so far
10:41 < mpp> how is you project ?
10:42 < csiadmin> going well thanks. just writing a custom installer - curious as to why you went ruby on yours?
10:42 < mpp> cause times change
10:42 < mpp> :-)
10:43 < mpp> bashing to bashing people
10:43 < csiadmin> :-)
10:43 < mpp> what scripting language do you prefer ?
10:43 < mpp> #!/bin/bash :-?
10:43 < csiadmin> I'm a java developer (csiadmin awaits flaming...)
10:43 < mpp> oh cool
10:44 < mpp> no flames
10:44 < mpp> just sparkling gems :-) *
10:44 < mpp> i know my installer sucks
10:44 < mpp> but it was a quick hack
10:44 < mpp> now that i have svn + git repos synced
10:45 < csiadmin> ...it's working better than mine!
10:45 < mpp> i'll refactor the universe :-) LOL
10:45 < mpp> need a hand - let me know
10:46 < csiadmin> thx do appreciate it.
10:46 < csiadmin> tested our vod app yesterday on box - worked very nicely! :-)
10:46 < mpp> well done !
10:47 < mpp> so how's weather northwise ?
10:47 < mpp> sunny over here :-)
10:48 < mpp> note 2 self : sunglasses needed when sleep < 4h
10:48 < csiadmin> very sunny here - already a blazing 8C
10:50 < mpp> LOL
10:50 < mpp> have some whiskey - warms u up on the inside :-)
10:52 < csiadmin> arrangements have been made for this evening...
11:12 < mpp> tadaa !
11:13 < mpp> i could not determine that irish toast ind 'the departed'
11:13 < mpp> maybe you can help out
11:13 < mpp> skaleil skoleil ...
11:15 < mpp> could be entirely wrong about that...
11:16 < csiadmin> oh yeah - not bad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sl%C3%A1inte
11:17 < csiadmin> we say it: slon-cha
11:20 < mpp> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/quotes
11:20 < mpp> one get's the impression that the native english / american tounge is bad ass 24/7
11:23 < mpp> bit i know better :-)
11:23 < mpp> time for a tea break
11:23 < mpp> pg-tips :-) it is
11:23 < mpp> bbs
11:33 < csiadmin> afk
11:34 < mpp> cheers
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12:53 < t2-newbie> hello
12:55 < t2-newbie> i've built the t2 generic target and now i'm wondering how to keep a t2 system up to date
12:56 < t2-newbie> i tried an svn update and it updated 3 packages
12:57 < t2-newbie> Download -required downloaded them but Build-Target didn't build a new package
12:57 < t2-newbie> is there a common way to rebuilt all packages that have been updated in svn ?
13:04 < mpp> scripts/Create-Errlist -cfg mycfg -newremove
13:04 < mpp> rebuilt
13:06 < t2-newbie> cool -thank you!
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16:47 < csiadmin> hey mpp: you still around?
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16:48 < Baldzius> moin
16:55 < csiadmin> hi Baldzius
16:55 < Baldzius> moin csiadmin
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17:27 < CIA-41> aldas * r34175 /trunk/package/network/samba/samba.desc: * updated samba (3.4.0 -> 3.4.1)
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17:36 < CIA-41> aldas * r34177 /trunk/package/base/coreutils/coreutils.desc: * updated coreutils (7.5 -> 7.6)
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18:00 < mpp> yes csiadmin:
18:03 < csiadmin> hey mpp: nearly there at this end ;-)
18:05 < mpp> right
18:05 < mpp> computer: locate csiadmin ....
18:06 < mpp> csiadmin is currently oh holodeck 3
18:06 < mpp> what program is he running......
18:06 < mpp> weeken programm 2009 .
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18:06 < mpp> so what can i do ya ...
18:07 < csiadmin> LOL
18:07 < mpp> oh will....
18:07 < mpp> oh imsadi ....
18:08 < mpp> LOL :-)
18:08 < csiadmin> just wondered how I would slip some files into your initrd.img
18:08 < mpp> ah
18:08 < mpp> place them in target/rescue-irf/rootfs/.....
18:08 < csiadmin> that's it just copy them in?
18:09 < mpp> that points to the / to be overlayed
18:09 < mpp> then rebuilt
18:09 < mpp> yes that's it
18:09 < csiadmin> awesome - I'd tried this before but in a installcd it doesn't work
18:09 < mpp> hm...
18:09 < mpp> nut sure why
18:10 < csiadmin> 99% finished my installer - very basic but does what I need.
18:10 < mpp> that's the way
18:10 < mpp> i think i'll initiate a new installer for t2
18:11 < mpp> maybe i can adopt / fork an existing one
18:11 < mpp> otherwise harnesing the power of ruby.....
18:11 < mpp> i think i'm gonna go for ruby style :-)
18:12 < csiadmin> will probably have to do the same here - I'd looked at python, only because I could adapt the gui from anaconda
18:12 < mpp> sure np
18:12 < csiadmin> the anaconda gui is completely separate from the python scripts doing the work in the background
18:13 < mpp> for end users that does make sense ...
18:14 < mpp> on the other hand - things i do personally need an excellent installer scripts
18:14 < mpp> since most stuff is i do is hands off
18:14 < mpp> kickstart / presedd
18:14 < csiadmin> got it. I've to provide nice pretty (professional) installers
18:15 < mpp> that's another topic !
18:15 < csiadmin> one sec -
18:15 < mpp> 2 to beam to the bridge.
18:15 < mpp> shwiiiing :-) LOL
18:20 < csiadmin> LOL
18:20 < mpp> git rules
18:20 < mpp> i just synced with a finger snap to the svn
18:20 < csiadmin> hmm sshd not running
18:20 < mpp> ah ...
18:21 < csiadmin> I've not used git - we're all over the svn here
18:21 < mpp> here is the thing:
18:21 < mpp> yes svn sucks !
18:21 < mpp> b2topic
18:21 < mpp> you need to let udev settle
18:21 < mpp> before you start interfaces
18:21 < mpp> ssh is probably startet gbut
18:21 < mpp> dhcp is not able to bring up the interface
18:22 < mpp> sorry about svn...
18:22 < mpp> :-)
18:22 < csiadmin> I've no love for svn anyways
18:22 < mpp> good boy !
18:22 < mpp> has anyone ever switched back from git -> svn
18:22 < mpp> LOl
18:23 < csiadmin> I think that's like moving from ruby -> bash
18:23 < mpp> merging + branching is state the of the art with git
18:23 < mpp> yes !!!!!
18:23 < mpp> luv ya man
18:23 < mpp> now were on the same page my friend
18:23 < mpp> see any dinosaurs aroung ?
18:23 < mpp> .... didn't think so .. !
18:24 < csiadmin> lol :-)
18:25 < mpp> there was a distro from the uk called rubyx
18:25 < mpp> the dude transformed all the bashin into ruby
18:25 < csiadmin> awesome
18:25 < mpp> think it's inactive nowadays
18:25 < mpp> yeah i wasn#t ready with ruby back then
18:25 < mpp> but today
18:26 < csiadmin> looked at it briefly - seems very readable
18:26 < mpp> i already convert parts of the t2 bashism -> ruby
18:26 < mpp> single malt oop style :-) LOL
18:26 < csiadmin> hehe
18:27 < csiadmin> hmm - anything I need to do to set up ssh other than gen the keys?
18:27 < mpp> start the daeomn
18:27 < mpp> have an ip address bound to the interface
18:28 < csiadmin> I've got an ip, and am starting sshd through the normal init.d script
18:28 < mpp> should be enough
18:29 < csiadmin> I've tried restarting it - no joy. keys are there though
18:30 < mpp> does the sshd run
18:30 < mpp> ps -a|grep ssh
18:30 < csiadmin> one sec
18:31 < csiadmin> sshd - no keys available
18:31 < mpp> hm...
18:32 < csiadmin> clearly a feature added by me :-)
18:32 < mpp> maybe the shell environment is not set proper
18:32 < mpp> have a look at my rescue/rootfs/etc/minit/local/run stuff
18:33 < mpp> did you build the same target ?
18:33 < mpp> cause the installer is minimalistic in terms of shell environment
18:33 < csiadmin> it's saying no dsa and rsa key. it's got the other ssh_host_key files
18:34 < mpp> then the paths aren't right
18:34 < mpp> is it the dropbear / ssh
18:34 < mpp> dropbear has different paths i think
18:35 < mpp> try using telnet first
18:35 < mpp> spares u the walk downstairs ...
18:35 < csiadmin> different target - no telnet
18:35 < csiadmin> I'm just running
18:35 < mpp> just add it for debbuging purpose
18:35 < mpp> u can deactivate afterwards
18:37 < csiadmin> lkjadf
18:37 < csiadmin> testing one two
18:37 < csiadmin> back again
18:37 < mpp> u could give the sshd
18:37 < mpp> explicit paths
18:38 < csiadmin> I do in my installer
18:38 < mpp> so u make sure it uses the proper ones
18:38 < mpp> hm...
18:38 < csiadmin> I'm just not sure what stone normally runs to gen the key
18:38 < csiadmin> s
18:39 < mpp> ah ...
18:39 < mpp> u r talking about the installed system
18:39 < mpp> diff topic
18:40 < mpp> what target did you use for building ?
18:40 < csiadmin> sorry mpp: my bad should've said.
18:40 < csiadmin> just flicking through the stone script now..
18:46 < csiadmin> think it might have to wait until Monday - it's past beer o'clock
18:47 < mpp> o geezut
18:47 < mpp> z
18:47 < mpp> run csiadmin: run !!!
18:47 < csiadmin> LOL
18:48 < csiadmin> I'll set up you with a single malt - think you'll make it?
18:48 < csiadmin> before closing?
18:48 < mpp> no joy
18:48 < mpp> next time
18:48 < mpp> i have on here
18:49 < mpp> see you on mundai
18:49 < mpp> :-)
18:49 < csiadmin> :-)
18:49 < csiadmin> have a great weekend my friend
18:49 < mpp> u2
18:49 < csiadmin> bye
18:49 < mpp> :-) (they are from ireland right ?)
18:50 < csiadmin> absolutely - one of our most profitable exports :-)
18:50 < mpp> note 2 self: cool sunglasses make the difference in life !
18:50 < csiadmin> LOL
18:50 < mpp> besides the liquid stuff !
18:50 < csiadmin> see ya next week
18:50 < mpp> love it
18:50 < mpp> byebye
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