T2 IRC Log: 2009-09-28
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--- Log opened Mon Sep 28 00:00:43 2009
00:22 < CIA-41> aldas * r34312 /trunk/package/gnome2/rhythmbox/rhythmbox.desc: * updated rhythmbox (0.11.6 -> 0.12.5)
00:22 < CIA-41> aldas * r34313 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-system-tools-backends/gnome-system-tools-backends.desc: * updated gnome-system-tools-backends (2.6.1 -> 2.8.1)
00:32 < CIA-41> aldas * r34314 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: * updated vte (0.19.4 -> 0.22.1)
01:35 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.75.125] has quit [Client Quit]
02:06 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@217.70.75.125] has joined #t2
08:46 < rxr> re
09:41 < CIA-41> rene * r34315 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libwww/perl-libwww.desc: * updated perl-libwww (5.831 -> 5.832)
09:43 < CIA-41> rene * r34316 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * poppler/poppler-data (0.2.1 -> 0.3.0)
09:43 < CIA-41> rene * r34317 /trunk/package/security/openct/openct.desc: * updated openct (0.6.17 -> 0.6.18)
09:43 < CIA-41> rene * r34318 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-geode/xf86-video-geode.desc: * updated xf86-video-geode (2.11.5 -> 2.11.6)
09:44 < CIA-41> rene * r34319 /trunk/package/perl/perl-authen-sasl/perl-authen-sasl.desc: * updated perl-authen-sasl (2.12 -> 2.13)
09:46 < CIA-41> rene * r34320 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg-server.desc: * updated xorg-server (1.6.3 -> 1.6.4)
10:15 -!- Xor_ [n=oscar@11.Red-80-38-62.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2
10:15 < Xor_> hello
10:22 < rxr> hi Xor_
10:22 < rxr> moin moin all
10:47 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:107:203:dff:fe13:6c9e] has joined #t2
10:47 < mpp> moinsen
11:03 < rxr> moin moin mpp
11:03 < CIA-41> rene * r34321 /trunk/package/perl/perl-time-date/perl-time-date.desc: * updated perl-time-date (1.17 -> 1.19)
11:03 < CIA-41> rene * r34322 /trunk/package/perl/imager/imager.desc: * updated imager (0.69 -> 0.70)
11:04 < CIA-41> rene * r34323 /trunk/package/scientific/plotutils/plotutils.desc: * updated plotutils (2.5.1 -> 2.6)
11:04 < CIA-41> rene * r34324 /trunk/package/multimedia/lives/lives.desc: * updated lives (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
13:01 < CIA-41> aldas * r34325 /trunk/package/gnome2/libxklavier/libxklavier.desc: * updated libxklavier (3.9 -> 4.0)
13:03 < CIA-41> aldas * r34326 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomekbd/libgnomekbd.desc: * rerun autotools for libgnomekbd
14:01 < Xor_> hi all
14:03 < Xor_> I've an error while building squashfs-tools
14:10 < Xor_> can someone help me, please? :(
14:11 < rxr> latest version of t2? trunk:HEAD?
14:11 < Xor_> t2 7.0
14:11 < rxr> oh, ok - that is another matter and sould build
14:12 < rxr> what is the error you get ?
14:13 < Xor_> a lot of undeclared symbols: Z_OK, Z_MEM_ERROR, Z_BUF_ERROR ...
14:13 < Xor_> z_stream, stream, flag_defator ...
14:13 < Xor_> seams zlib.h is not present
14:16 < rxr> which target did you build?
14:16 < Xor_> generic embedded
14:17 < rxr> hmhm
14:18 < rxr> and which stage does the error occur in? 0 or 1
14:18 < rxr> ?
14:18 < Xor_> 0
14:18 < rxr> ah, then your host systems lacks zlib-devel or so
14:18 < rxr> depending on your host distribution
14:19 < rxr> we could certainly even build zlib for the tools, for such cases, just in case
14:20 < Xor_> its ubuntu 9.04, so i cant find zlib-dev at all
14:20 < rxr> libz-devel whatever
14:20 < Xor_> i see libghc6-zlib-dev, ¿?¿?
14:20 < rxr> soudns strange
14:21 < Xor_> yes! with libghc6-zlib-dev the build pass ok
14:22 < Xor_> thank you!
14:22 < rxr> your welcome
14:22 < rxr> though that is a very strange package name ...
14:23 < Xor_> yes, i thing so
14:26 < Xor_> another simple question: why perl is builded in a embedded system? its perl necessary?
14:27 < rxr> I think not really, more like a demo
14:27 < rxr> embedded is a bare bone example anyway
14:27 < rxr> it's intended as starting point to be made fit into the actual system at hand
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14:32 < Xor_> I have my own kernel, I made some changes in it, then, how can I build this kernel with a target "generic system" ?
14:37 < Xor_> well, this kernel is 2.6.28.9 with some changes
14:39 < rxr> you can either add your modifications as "patches" to the linux26 packaage
14:39 < rxr> of if you rather want to copy the whole linux26 package with your changes
14:40 < Xor_> ok thanks :)
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16:21 < Baldzius> moin
16:24 < rxr> moin mon Baldzius
16:25 < Baldzius> hey rxr
17:39 < rxr> mpp: aroun
17:39 < rxr> d
17:40 < mpp> yes
17:40 < mpp> what can i do for you ?
17:40 < mpp> rxr: go ahead
17:51 < rxr> for the reverse dns ptr
17:51 < rxr> would exactcode.de sufficient as it is the name of the sending server
17:51 < mpp> yes !
17:51 < rxr> or would the full receiving MX mx1.exactcode.de more suitable
17:51 < mpp> that would do fine
17:51 < rxr> just exactcode.de without mx1 ?
17:51 < mpp> the later one would be better
17:51 < mpp> off course
17:51 < mpp> :-)
17:52 < rxr> hm - but with one IP all other lookups would look strange
17:52 < rxr> but exactcode.de should already work good enough ?
17:52 < mpp> i think so
17:53 < mpp> at least it works fine on all implementations i have done
17:54 < mpp> you might want to change to your mx record accordingly
17:54 < mpp> meaning :
17:54 < mpp> dig exactcode.de mx
17:55 < mpp> should give exactcode.de instead of mx1.ex.... / mx2.ex....
17:55 < mpp> if you keep the mx records as they are now you should go with mx1.exactcode.de for ther reverse dns first !
17:55 < mpp> you can probably add / switch if needed
17:56 < mpp> later on
17:56 < mpp> rxr: hope you get this before calling your dns provider
17:56 < mpp> :-) !
17:57 < mpp> you have rotating round robin dns on the forward lookup entries
17:57 < mpp> so reverse dns will fail in 50% of reverse lookups :-(
17:58 < mpp> as they point to the same ip address i would consider deleting one of them
17:59 < mpp> so you 'll have consistent forward reverse lookup on the other end
17:59 < rxr> no, the other should not be my IP
17:59 < rxr> that should be another backup queue
17:59 < mpp> it is
17:59 < mpp> double cheked
18:00 < rxr> oh the point to the same
18:00 < rxr> hm
18:00 < rxr> that should be fixed
18:00 < mpp> anyways - if u keep multiple mx records you
18:00 < mpp> should also have multiple reverse entries
18:00 < mpp> as most mail servers do NOT honor the smtp rfc's !
18:00 -!- Xor_ [n=oscar@11.Red-80-38-62.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Saliendo"]
18:01 < mpp> so you have to be accurate on the dns stuff to be sure
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18:02 -!- Xor is now known as Guest20558
18:02 < Guest20558> hi again
18:02 < Guest20558> i have another error while building package clockspeek :(
18:02 < rxr> damn alice is not cooperative on the matter
18:02 < rxr> f*ck it
18:03 < mpp> sorry rxr:
18:03 -!- Guest20558 is now known as xor_
18:03 < mpp> i know these troubles
18:03 < rxr> after 3 phone calls with varring length they can only enter the 12 1/2 ASCII chards when we have a 100EUR more expensive SDSL line ..
18:03 < rxr> this is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO stupid
18:03 < mpp> wtf ?
18:04 < rxr> yeah f*ck ...
18:04 < rxr> for the past year we used their mail relay, however it had spurius problems, and we noticed last week it does not relay emails greater than 8 or 10 MB ...
18:05 < mpp> i remember
18:06 < rxr> its a shame as othrwise we had not a single problem ...
18:06 < rxr> stupid them ruining their customer relationship about a single config line ...
18:06 < mpp> always the same sh*t
18:06 < rxr> I even told them I pay a tech hour or some monthly 5 or 10EUR
18:06 < rxr> but not 100EUR ...
18:31 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:107:203:dff:fe13:6c9e] has quit ["good night - good fight"]
20:36 < Baldzius> rxr: do you have any new udev version locally?
20:45 < CIA-41> aldas * r34327 /trunk/package/develop/devicekit/ (. devicekit.cache devicekit.desc): * added devicekit (003) - An abstraction for enumerating devices and listening to device events
20:45 < CIA-41> aldas * r34328 /trunk/package/gnome2/gobject-introspection/ (. gobject-introspection.cache gobject-introspection.desc): * added gobject-introspection (0.6.5) - Introspection for GObject libraries
20:47 < CIA-41> aldas * r34329 /trunk/package/develop/eggdbus/ (. eggdbus.cache eggdbus.desc): * added eggdbus (0.5) - D-Bus bindings for GObject
20:49 < CIA-41> aldas * r34330 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * renamed policykit-gnome to polkit-gnome (as mainline)
20:51 < CIA-41> aldas * r34331 /trunk/package/develop/ (policykit/ polkit/ polkit/polkit.cache polkit/polkit.desc): * renamed policykit to polkit (as mainline)
21:48 < CIA-41> aldas * r34332 /trunk/package/filesystem/coda/coda.conf: * fixed a typo in pkgconfig path for coda
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00:22 < CIA-41> aldas * r34312 /trunk/package/gnome2/rhythmbox/rhythmbox.desc: * updated rhythmbox (0.11.6 -> 0.12.5)
00:22 < CIA-41> aldas * r34313 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-system-tools-backends/gnome-system-tools-backends.desc: * updated gnome-system-tools-backends (2.6.1 -> 2.8.1)
00:32 < CIA-41> aldas * r34314 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: * updated vte (0.19.4 -> 0.22.1)
01:35 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.75.125] has quit [Client Quit]
02:06 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@217.70.75.125] has joined #t2
08:46 < rxr> re
09:41 < CIA-41> rene * r34315 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libwww/perl-libwww.desc: * updated perl-libwww (5.831 -> 5.832)
09:43 < CIA-41> rene * r34316 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * poppler/poppler-data (0.2.1 -> 0.3.0)
09:43 < CIA-41> rene * r34317 /trunk/package/security/openct/openct.desc: * updated openct (0.6.17 -> 0.6.18)
09:43 < CIA-41> rene * r34318 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-geode/xf86-video-geode.desc: * updated xf86-video-geode (2.11.5 -> 2.11.6)
09:44 < CIA-41> rene * r34319 /trunk/package/perl/perl-authen-sasl/perl-authen-sasl.desc: * updated perl-authen-sasl (2.12 -> 2.13)
09:46 < CIA-41> rene * r34320 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg-server.desc: * updated xorg-server (1.6.3 -> 1.6.4)
10:15 -!- Xor_ [n=oscar@11.Red-80-38-62.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2
10:15 < Xor_> hello
10:22 < rxr> hi Xor_
10:22 < rxr> moin moin all
10:47 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:107:203:dff:fe13:6c9e] has joined #t2
10:47 < mpp> moinsen
11:03 < rxr> moin moin mpp
11:03 < CIA-41> rene * r34321 /trunk/package/perl/perl-time-date/perl-time-date.desc: * updated perl-time-date (1.17 -> 1.19)
11:03 < CIA-41> rene * r34322 /trunk/package/perl/imager/imager.desc: * updated imager (0.69 -> 0.70)
11:04 < CIA-41> rene * r34323 /trunk/package/scientific/plotutils/plotutils.desc: * updated plotutils (2.5.1 -> 2.6)
11:04 < CIA-41> rene * r34324 /trunk/package/multimedia/lives/lives.desc: * updated lives (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
13:01 < CIA-41> aldas * r34325 /trunk/package/gnome2/libxklavier/libxklavier.desc: * updated libxklavier (3.9 -> 4.0)
13:03 < CIA-41> aldas * r34326 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomekbd/libgnomekbd.desc: * rerun autotools for libgnomekbd
14:01 < Xor_> hi all
14:03 < Xor_> I've an error while building squashfs-tools
14:10 < Xor_> can someone help me, please? :(
14:11 < rxr> latest version of t2? trunk:HEAD?
14:11 < Xor_> t2 7.0
14:11 < rxr> oh, ok - that is another matter and sould build
14:12 < rxr> what is the error you get ?
14:13 < Xor_> a lot of undeclared symbols: Z_OK, Z_MEM_ERROR, Z_BUF_ERROR ...
14:13 < Xor_> z_stream, stream, flag_defator ...
14:13 < Xor_> seams zlib.h is not present
14:16 < rxr> which target did you build?
14:16 < Xor_> generic embedded
14:17 < rxr> hmhm
14:18 < rxr> and which stage does the error occur in? 0 or 1
14:18 < rxr> ?
14:18 < Xor_> 0
14:18 < rxr> ah, then your host systems lacks zlib-devel or so
14:18 < rxr> depending on your host distribution
14:19 < rxr> we could certainly even build zlib for the tools, for such cases, just in case
14:20 < Xor_> its ubuntu 9.04, so i cant find zlib-dev at all
14:20 < rxr> libz-devel whatever
14:20 < Xor_> i see libghc6-zlib-dev, ¿?¿?
14:20 < rxr> soudns strange
14:21 < Xor_> yes! with libghc6-zlib-dev the build pass ok
14:22 < Xor_> thank you!
14:22 < rxr> your welcome
14:22 < rxr> though that is a very strange package name ...
14:23 < Xor_> yes, i thing so
14:26 < Xor_> another simple question: why perl is builded in a embedded system? its perl necessary?
14:27 < rxr> I think not really, more like a demo
14:27 < rxr> embedded is a bare bone example anyway
14:27 < rxr> it's intended as starting point to be made fit into the actual system at hand
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14:32 < Xor_> I have my own kernel, I made some changes in it, then, how can I build this kernel with a target "generic system" ?
14:37 < Xor_> well, this kernel is 2.6.28.9 with some changes
14:39 < rxr> you can either add your modifications as "patches" to the linux26 packaage
14:39 < rxr> of if you rather want to copy the whole linux26 package with your changes
14:40 < Xor_> ok thanks :)
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16:21 < Baldzius> moin
16:24 < rxr> moin mon Baldzius
16:25 < Baldzius> hey rxr
17:39 < rxr> mpp: aroun
17:39 < rxr> d
17:40 < mpp> yes
17:40 < mpp> what can i do for you ?
17:40 < mpp> rxr: go ahead
17:51 < rxr> for the reverse dns ptr
17:51 < rxr> would exactcode.de sufficient as it is the name of the sending server
17:51 < mpp> yes !
17:51 < rxr> or would the full receiving MX mx1.exactcode.de more suitable
17:51 < mpp> that would do fine
17:51 < rxr> just exactcode.de without mx1 ?
17:51 < mpp> the later one would be better
17:51 < mpp> off course
17:51 < mpp> :-)
17:52 < rxr> hm - but with one IP all other lookups would look strange
17:52 < rxr> but exactcode.de should already work good enough ?
17:52 < mpp> i think so
17:53 < mpp> at least it works fine on all implementations i have done
17:54 < mpp> you might want to change to your mx record accordingly
17:54 < mpp> meaning :
17:54 < mpp> dig exactcode.de mx
17:55 < mpp> should give exactcode.de instead of mx1.ex.... / mx2.ex....
17:55 < mpp> if you keep the mx records as they are now you should go with mx1.exactcode.de for ther reverse dns first !
17:55 < mpp> you can probably add / switch if needed
17:56 < mpp> later on
17:56 < mpp> rxr: hope you get this before calling your dns provider
17:56 < mpp> :-) !
17:57 < mpp> you have rotating round robin dns on the forward lookup entries
17:57 < mpp> so reverse dns will fail in 50% of reverse lookups :-(
17:58 < mpp> as they point to the same ip address i would consider deleting one of them
17:59 < mpp> so you 'll have consistent forward reverse lookup on the other end
17:59 < rxr> no, the other should not be my IP
17:59 < rxr> that should be another backup queue
17:59 < mpp> it is
17:59 < mpp> double cheked
18:00 < rxr> oh the point to the same
18:00 < rxr> hm
18:00 < rxr> that should be fixed
18:00 < mpp> anyways - if u keep multiple mx records you
18:00 < mpp> should also have multiple reverse entries
18:00 < mpp> as most mail servers do NOT honor the smtp rfc's !
18:00 -!- Xor_ [n=oscar@11.Red-80-38-62.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Saliendo"]
18:01 < mpp> so you have to be accurate on the dns stuff to be sure
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18:02 -!- Xor is now known as Guest20558
18:02 < Guest20558> hi again
18:02 < Guest20558> i have another error while building package clockspeek :(
18:02 < rxr> damn alice is not cooperative on the matter
18:02 < rxr> f*ck it
18:03 < mpp> sorry rxr:
18:03 -!- Guest20558 is now known as xor_
18:03 < mpp> i know these troubles
18:03 < rxr> after 3 phone calls with varring length they can only enter the 12 1/2 ASCII chards when we have a 100EUR more expensive SDSL line ..
18:03 < rxr> this is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO stupid
18:03 < mpp> wtf ?
18:04 < rxr> yeah f*ck ...
18:04 < rxr> for the past year we used their mail relay, however it had spurius problems, and we noticed last week it does not relay emails greater than 8 or 10 MB ...
18:05 < mpp> i remember
18:06 < rxr> its a shame as othrwise we had not a single problem ...
18:06 < rxr> stupid them ruining their customer relationship about a single config line ...
18:06 < mpp> always the same sh*t
18:06 < rxr> I even told them I pay a tech hour or some monthly 5 or 10EUR
18:06 < rxr> but not 100EUR ...
18:31 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:107:203:dff:fe13:6c9e] has quit ["good night - good fight"]
20:36 < Baldzius> rxr: do you have any new udev version locally?
20:45 < CIA-41> aldas * r34327 /trunk/package/develop/devicekit/ (. devicekit.cache devicekit.desc): * added devicekit (003) - An abstraction for enumerating devices and listening to device events
20:45 < CIA-41> aldas * r34328 /trunk/package/gnome2/gobject-introspection/ (. gobject-introspection.cache gobject-introspection.desc): * added gobject-introspection (0.6.5) - Introspection for GObject libraries
20:47 < CIA-41> aldas * r34329 /trunk/package/develop/eggdbus/ (. eggdbus.cache eggdbus.desc): * added eggdbus (0.5) - D-Bus bindings for GObject
20:49 < CIA-41> aldas * r34330 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * renamed policykit-gnome to polkit-gnome (as mainline)
20:51 < CIA-41> aldas * r34331 /trunk/package/develop/ (policykit/ polkit/ polkit/polkit.cache polkit/polkit.desc): * renamed policykit to polkit (as mainline)
21:48 < CIA-41> aldas * r34332 /trunk/package/filesystem/coda/coda.conf: * fixed a typo in pkgconfig path for coda
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--- Log closed Tue Sep 29 00:00:43 2009