T2 IRC Log: 2010-07-28
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--- Log opened Wed Jul 28 00:00:49 2010
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03:45 < Toonami> I'm trying to build the desktop target, but it fails with package gnome2/orbit2.
03:50 < Toonami> In 0-oribit2.err I see No package 'libIDL-2.0' found.
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11:20 < rogermason> Hello all. I built the desktop target (i686) in trunk yesterday and I'm working through the errors. xf86-video-openchrome fails in configure with this error: configure:11744: error: possibly undefined macro: AS_MESSAGE_LOG_FDdnl. There is some discussion here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=611781.
11:33 < rxr> re
11:34 < rxr> yeah, the openchrome is not such a perfect driver in any case
11:34 < rxr> do you have VIA hardware?
11:40 < rogermason> Maybe. I have various machines. lspci would tell me for the build machine - it is not in the package matrix. Is it included in another package?
11:41 < rxr> what is not in the package matrix ß
11:41 < rogermason> lspci
11:42 < rxr> lspci is in pciutils or so
11:42 < rxr> you shoudl be able to search for those tools in the t2 site's "Google custom search"
11:42 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/pciutils.html
11:46 < rogermason> Thanks I was looking under the name lspci.
11:47 < rxr> use the top right corner search lspci brought up pciutils as #1 hit
11:48 < rogermason> Duh! Thanks.
11:49 < rxr> and a general note, best click on some ads here and there that interest you while at it :-)
11:50 < rogermason> I re-emerged pciutils but lspci still returns "command not found".
11:55 < rxr> as root or user?
11:56 < rxr> baldzius: lxde/lxrandr is another inf. looper
12:02 < rogermason> rxr: as root. But it turns out i had su'd without the appended '-' option. The machine has nvidia hardware.
12:02 < rxr> I'll try to fix some more obscure errors, such as this openchrome one
12:03 < rogermason> I should focus on the errors that are important to me perhaps, but I thought it usefult to report back.
12:05 < rogermason> Here's one. emacs: configure: error: Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
12:18 < rogermason> Aha. The problem building emacs tracks back through gtk+, which fails because libtiff fails with this: checking host system type... i686-t2-linux-gnu
12:18 < rogermason> checking target system type... Invalid configuration `X': machine `X' not recognized
12:18 < rogermason> configure: error: /bin/sh config/config.sub X failed
12:43 < rxr> strange error, I think I'v not yet seen such a thing :-(
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13:09 < rogermason> If I cd to src.libtiff..., ./debug.sh, cd tiff-3.9.4, ./configure, make, then it configures and compiles without error.
13:12 < rxr> it probably has a problem with sonething in the $confopt
13:12 < rxr> confifgure is run like: eval ./configure $confotp $extraconfopt
13:13 < rxr> hm - libtiff builds for me on all servers
13:13 < rxr> can you upload your whole .err log somewhere ?
13:28 < rogermason> http://filebin.ca/sdgyaf/5-libtiff.err
13:35 < rxr> there are some X's in the configure line
13:35 < rxr> did you add any manual config stuff to the Configß
13:36 < rxr> or what other changes have you done to the config?
13:36 < rxr> X lilo X syslinux
13:36 < rxr> there are package selection rules in the config
13:36 < rxr> can you tar me your config directory=
13:36 < rxr> ?
13:37 < rxr> any change you inserted this selection rules under "custom configure options" ?
13:41 < rogermason> http://filebin.ca/hkpogs/syslinux_minimal.tar.gz
13:47 < rogermason> I selected lilo & syslinux by setting 'Custome package selection' and using 'Edit package selection rules'.
13:48 < rxr> # grep syslinux *
13:48 < rxr> config:export SDECFG_CONFIGURE_OPTS='X lilo X syslinux '
13:49 < rxr> as I thought, don't know how they got in their beside you may have entered them in the custom configure options earlier?
13:49 < rxr> you can just edit that config file with an editor, removing those and conginue your libtiff build
13:49 < rxr> hope that helps, have to go in a second
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14:03 < Baldzius> moin
14:18 < Baldzius> rxr: around?
14:28 < koan> 13:49:33 < rxr> hope that helps, have to go in a second
14:28 < Baldzius> :)
14:29 < Baldzius> it's 13:28 here :)
14:29 < koan> oh 14:29 here :)
14:29 < koan> Brussels time
14:29 < Baldzius> looks like same for Berlin
14:30 < koan> uhm so one of us has the wrong time?
14:30 < Baldzius> no, I am in IE
14:31 < koan> oh yes, now I see your .ie hostmask :-)
14:31 < koan> I always thought your name sounded German :-)
14:32 < koan> (nickname)
14:33 < Baldzius> really? it's actually Lithuanian, means furniture-maker
15:15 < pabelanger> Is it possible to setup conflicts between t2 packages? It seems busybox and e2fsprogs have shared binaries.
15:16 < pabelanger> http://pastebin.com/SJyc4kJh
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15:27 < rxr> yes, it is possible to combinations that clobber each other's files
15:27 < rxr> it's up to the developping user to deal with this
15:30 < rogermason> rxr: update. libtiff compiled fine. Several other packages that failed have also compiled. So, what is the correct means to select additional packages in .scripts/Config?
15:34 < rxr> well, it was the correct meaning, just in the wrong config option
15:34 < rxr> you have them and others in the pkgsel file with the rules
15:34 < rxr> I can only guess that you tried to add them to this "extra configure options" option initially
15:36 < rogermason> Well, I dunno what I did wrong. Which file _should_they be in, pkgsel?
15:39 < rxr> yes, and you have the pkgsel
15:39 < rxr> when you edit them in the Config custom package selection they are also supposed to end up in that pkgsel file
15:43 < rogermason> OK. If the same problem arises again, I now know where to look. Once again, thanks for you help.
15:48 -!- mode/#t2 [+o rxr] by ChanServ
15:48 < Baldzius> :)
15:49 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 8.0-rc2 released! | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
15:49 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Sat Dec 12 19:27:02 2009]
15:49 <@rxr> T2 SDE | 8.0 released! | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://t2-project.org
15:49 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 SDE | 8.0 released! | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://t2-project.org
15:50 < Baldzius> :)
15:50 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 SDE | 8.0 released! | The Open T2 System Development Environment (SDE) | http://t2-project.org
15:57 < CIA-33> rene * r36991 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.desc: * updated scribus (1.3.7 -> 1.3.8)
15:57 < CIA-33> rene * r36990 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (5.1.48 -> 5.1.49)
15:59 <@rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/scribus.html
16:09 < CIA-33> rene * r36992 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.desc: * fixed scribus (1.3.8) Download tag, could not C-c fast enough when the last commit was altready thru, ...
16:29 <@rxr> I do like to once again promote my hardware listing efforts: http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/workstation/HP/T5710/
16:33 < koan> do you have one of these?
16:36 <@rxr> I consider getting one from ebay :-)
16:47 < CIA-33> aldas * r36993 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.70 -> 2.02.71)
16:58 <@rxr> develop/gcl inf. loops, too
16:58 <@rxr> checking for randomized brk remedy...
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17:20 < CIA-33> rene * r36994 /trunk/package/graphic/ilmbase/gcc43.patch: * fixed ilmbase for gcc >= 4.3
17:24 < Baldzius> how about xen-tools?
17:24 <@rxr> -EDONTKNOW
17:24 <@rxr> you ask for removal =
17:24 <@rxr> ?
17:24 < Baldzius> I think it compiled for me only wan't giving me back the shell
17:25 < Baldzius> no
17:25 < Baldzius> :)
17:25 <@rxr> hm, no idea
17:25 < Baldzius> 4.0.1 should be out soon
17:25 < Baldzius> will check again
17:26 <@rxr> it would be awesome if I could get you intesed in xen and improve overall xen support :-
17:29 < Baldzius> maybe some day :)
17:33 < Baldzius> trying to compile t2 on ubuntu 10.04
17:34 < Baldzius> I hope it will pass stage 2 this time
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18:59 < Baldzius> Found shared files with other packages:
18:59 < Baldzius> !> usr/include/setjmp.h: glibc readline
18:59 < Baldzius> is this only for me?
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20:12 < bender> hi
20:15 < bender> could someone tell me, how a embedded system created with t2 could be simply updated?
20:28 < Baldzius> never done that before
20:29 < Baldzius> mostly I update packages I want/need
20:30 < Baldzius> but there's an option in Emerge-Pkg if you use same config
20:30 < Baldzius> I think it's -update or -upgrade
20:30 < Baldzius> but I would test it first how it works
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21:23 < rogermason> Hello. In trunk, ghc fails: configure: error: GHC is required unless bootstrapping from .hc files.
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03:45 < Toonami> I'm trying to build the desktop target, but it fails with package gnome2/orbit2.
03:50 < Toonami> In 0-oribit2.err I see No package 'libIDL-2.0' found.
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11:20 < rogermason> Hello all. I built the desktop target (i686) in trunk yesterday and I'm working through the errors. xf86-video-openchrome fails in configure with this error: configure:11744: error: possibly undefined macro: AS_MESSAGE_LOG_FDdnl. There is some discussion here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=611781.
11:33 < rxr> re
11:34 < rxr> yeah, the openchrome is not such a perfect driver in any case
11:34 < rxr> do you have VIA hardware?
11:40 < rogermason> Maybe. I have various machines. lspci would tell me for the build machine - it is not in the package matrix. Is it included in another package?
11:41 < rxr> what is not in the package matrix ß
11:41 < rogermason> lspci
11:42 < rxr> lspci is in pciutils or so
11:42 < rxr> you shoudl be able to search for those tools in the t2 site's "Google custom search"
11:42 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/pciutils.html
11:46 < rogermason> Thanks I was looking under the name lspci.
11:47 < rxr> use the top right corner search lspci brought up pciutils as #1 hit
11:48 < rogermason> Duh! Thanks.
11:49 < rxr> and a general note, best click on some ads here and there that interest you while at it :-)
11:50 < rogermason> I re-emerged pciutils but lspci still returns "command not found".
11:55 < rxr> as root or user?
11:56 < rxr> baldzius: lxde/lxrandr is another inf. looper
12:02 < rogermason> rxr: as root. But it turns out i had su'd without the appended '-' option. The machine has nvidia hardware.
12:02 < rxr> I'll try to fix some more obscure errors, such as this openchrome one
12:03 < rogermason> I should focus on the errors that are important to me perhaps, but I thought it usefult to report back.
12:05 < rogermason> Here's one. emacs: configure: error: Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
12:18 < rogermason> Aha. The problem building emacs tracks back through gtk+, which fails because libtiff fails with this: checking host system type... i686-t2-linux-gnu
12:18 < rogermason> checking target system type... Invalid configuration `X': machine `X' not recognized
12:18 < rogermason> configure: error: /bin/sh config/config.sub X failed
12:43 < rxr> strange error, I think I'v not yet seen such a thing :-(
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13:09 < rogermason> If I cd to src.libtiff..., ./debug.sh, cd tiff-3.9.4, ./configure, make, then it configures and compiles without error.
13:12 < rxr> it probably has a problem with sonething in the $confopt
13:12 < rxr> confifgure is run like: eval ./configure $confotp $extraconfopt
13:13 < rxr> hm - libtiff builds for me on all servers
13:13 < rxr> can you upload your whole .err log somewhere ?
13:28 < rogermason> http://filebin.ca/sdgyaf/5-libtiff.err
13:35 < rxr> there are some X's in the configure line
13:35 < rxr> did you add any manual config stuff to the Configß
13:36 < rxr> or what other changes have you done to the config?
13:36 < rxr> X lilo X syslinux
13:36 < rxr> there are package selection rules in the config
13:36 < rxr> can you tar me your config directory=
13:36 < rxr> ?
13:37 < rxr> any change you inserted this selection rules under "custom configure options" ?
13:41 < rogermason> http://filebin.ca/hkpogs/syslinux_minimal.tar.gz
13:47 < rogermason> I selected lilo & syslinux by setting 'Custome package selection' and using 'Edit package selection rules'.
13:48 < rxr> # grep syslinux *
13:48 < rxr> config:export SDECFG_CONFIGURE_OPTS='X lilo X syslinux '
13:49 < rxr> as I thought, don't know how they got in their beside you may have entered them in the custom configure options earlier?
13:49 < rxr> you can just edit that config file with an editor, removing those and conginue your libtiff build
13:49 < rxr> hope that helps, have to go in a second
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14:03 < Baldzius> moin
14:18 < Baldzius> rxr: around?
14:28 < koan> 13:49:33 < rxr> hope that helps, have to go in a second
14:28 < Baldzius> :)
14:29 < Baldzius> it's 13:28 here :)
14:29 < koan> oh 14:29 here :)
14:29 < koan> Brussels time
14:29 < Baldzius> looks like same for Berlin
14:30 < koan> uhm so one of us has the wrong time?
14:30 < Baldzius> no, I am in IE
14:31 < koan> oh yes, now I see your .ie hostmask :-)
14:31 < koan> I always thought your name sounded German :-)
14:32 < koan> (nickname)
14:33 < Baldzius> really? it's actually Lithuanian, means furniture-maker
15:15 < pabelanger> Is it possible to setup conflicts between t2 packages? It seems busybox and e2fsprogs have shared binaries.
15:16 < pabelanger> http://pastebin.com/SJyc4kJh
15:27 -!- pabelanger [~pabelange@yoda.kanatek.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:27 < rxr> yes, it is possible to combinations that clobber each other's files
15:27 < rxr> it's up to the developping user to deal with this
15:30 < rogermason> rxr: update. libtiff compiled fine. Several other packages that failed have also compiled. So, what is the correct means to select additional packages in .scripts/Config?
15:34 < rxr> well, it was the correct meaning, just in the wrong config option
15:34 < rxr> you have them and others in the pkgsel file with the rules
15:34 < rxr> I can only guess that you tried to add them to this "extra configure options" option initially
15:36 < rogermason> Well, I dunno what I did wrong. Which file _should_they be in, pkgsel?
15:39 < rxr> yes, and you have the pkgsel
15:39 < rxr> when you edit them in the Config custom package selection they are also supposed to end up in that pkgsel file
15:43 < rogermason> OK. If the same problem arises again, I now know where to look. Once again, thanks for you help.
15:48 -!- mode/#t2 [+o rxr] by ChanServ
15:48 < Baldzius> :)
15:49 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 8.0-rc2 released! | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
15:49 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Sat Dec 12 19:27:02 2009]
15:49 <@rxr> T2 SDE | 8.0 released! | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://t2-project.org
15:49 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 SDE | 8.0 released! | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://t2-project.org
15:50 < Baldzius> :)
15:50 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 SDE | 8.0 released! | The Open T2 System Development Environment (SDE) | http://t2-project.org
15:57 < CIA-33> rene * r36991 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.desc: * updated scribus (1.3.7 -> 1.3.8)
15:57 < CIA-33> rene * r36990 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (5.1.48 -> 5.1.49)
15:59 <@rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/scribus.html
16:09 < CIA-33> rene * r36992 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.desc: * fixed scribus (1.3.8) Download tag, could not C-c fast enough when the last commit was altready thru, ...
16:29 <@rxr> I do like to once again promote my hardware listing efforts: http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/workstation/HP/T5710/
16:33 < koan> do you have one of these?
16:36 <@rxr> I consider getting one from ebay :-)
16:47 < CIA-33> aldas * r36993 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.70 -> 2.02.71)
16:58 <@rxr> develop/gcl inf. loops, too
16:58 <@rxr> checking for randomized brk remedy...
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17:20 < CIA-33> rene * r36994 /trunk/package/graphic/ilmbase/gcc43.patch: * fixed ilmbase for gcc >= 4.3
17:24 < Baldzius> how about xen-tools?
17:24 <@rxr> -EDONTKNOW
17:24 <@rxr> you ask for removal =
17:24 <@rxr> ?
17:24 < Baldzius> I think it compiled for me only wan't giving me back the shell
17:25 < Baldzius> no
17:25 < Baldzius> :)
17:25 <@rxr> hm, no idea
17:25 < Baldzius> 4.0.1 should be out soon
17:25 < Baldzius> will check again
17:26 <@rxr> it would be awesome if I could get you intesed in xen and improve overall xen support :-
17:29 < Baldzius> maybe some day :)
17:33 < Baldzius> trying to compile t2 on ubuntu 10.04
17:34 < Baldzius> I hope it will pass stage 2 this time
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18:59 < Baldzius> Found shared files with other packages:
18:59 < Baldzius> !> usr/include/setjmp.h: glibc readline
18:59 < Baldzius> is this only for me?
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20:12 < bender> hi
20:15 < bender> could someone tell me, how a embedded system created with t2 could be simply updated?
20:28 < Baldzius> never done that before
20:29 < Baldzius> mostly I update packages I want/need
20:30 < Baldzius> but there's an option in Emerge-Pkg if you use same config
20:30 < Baldzius> I think it's -update or -upgrade
20:30 < Baldzius> but I would test it first how it works
20:40 -!- Baldzius [~aldas@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:23 < rogermason> Hello. In trunk, ghc fails: configure: error: GHC is required unless bootstrapping from .hc files.
21:23 -!- bender [~bender@77-56-180-172.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
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